Quebec election: Liberals are slipping in latest poll
Sånn holdt dere også på før regjeringen Couillard forbød fracking i Quebec. Fikk dere rett?
Hvis jeg var dere, ville jeg tatt diverse partimålinger før valget med en bøtte salt. Kan ikke huske at tilsvarende forhåndsmålinger i Norge noen gang har slått til.
Uansett er frackingspørsmålet ingen kampsak foran valget i Quebec. Gemyttene har roet seg ned i stilltiende samtykke etter Couillards totalforbud mot fracking. Også dette bør være et signal til dere om i hvilken retning vinden blåser!
Hvis jeg var dere, ville jeg tatt diverse partimålinger før valget med en bøtte salt. Kan ikke huske at tilsvarende forhåndsmålinger i Norge noen gang har slått til.
Uansett er frackingspørsmålet ingen kampsak foran valget i Quebec. Gemyttene har roet seg ned i stilltiende samtykke etter Couillards totalforbud mot fracking. Også dette bør være et signal til dere om i hvilken retning vinden blåser!
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panamajack
16.09.2018 kl 10:18
8105
Wakan Tanka har snakket. Det må bli fracket i Quebec, hvis Quebec må betale sine gjeld i pengesedler, det blir ingen trær i Quebec.
norman
17.09.2018 kl 13:32
7719
CAQ har nå ledet på alle meningsmålinger siden tidlig i 2017, og sjansen er 70% for at CAQ vil vinne valget med majoriteten av mandatene i regjeringen. Ja, selvfølgelig kan dette endres frem mot 1. oktober, men hvis man får majoriteten, så betyr ordene til Couillard og Moreau absolutt ingenting. Moreau kan godt si at det ikke er politisk aksept, men de siste meningsmålingene viser et flertall for utvinning.
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/qcvotes/poll-tracker/
Når det er sagt så stoler jeg ikke på noen av politikerne i denne hykler provinsen!
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/qcvotes/poll-tracker/
Når det er sagt så stoler jeg ikke på noen av politikerne i denne hykler provinsen!
"Uansett er frackingspørsmålet ingen kampsak foran valget i Quebec. Gemyttene har roet seg ned i stilltiende samtykke etter Couillards totalforbud mot fracking. Også dette bør være et signal til dere om i hvilken retning vinden blåser!"
TommyLee
27.09.2018 kl 19:42
7108
Det ser ut som de har sluttet å oppdatere poll-tracker'n:
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/qcvotes/poll-tracker/
Noen som har sett noen dagsmålinger?
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/qcvotes/poll-tracker/
Noen som har sett noen dagsmålinger?
Faktisk ikke sett noe på en stund jeg heller, dessverre. Dette blir utrolig spennende... Tror faktisk ikke folk forstår hvor mye det faktisk kan ha å si at CAQ vinner valget her. Ser at en del nervøse aksjonærer har valgt å selge seg ut, blant annet i går, samtidig som noen nye kjøpte seg inn i dag. Noen har tro på valget, andre har ikke! Jeg sitter i ro, og har veldig stor tro på dette. Uansett er Qec priset mye høyere enn dagens nivå, selv uten St. Lawrence Québec
Da er det siste dag for å posisjonere seg før valget. Jeg har ikke sett noen oppdaterte meningsmålinger de siste dagene, men ønsker gjerne en link dersom noen andre har funnet informasjon av nytteverdi. Utenom dette så blir det utrolig spennende å følge valget, og hva som skjer med Questerre fremover, jeg har troa! Send gjerne noen linker/ skriv noen synspunkter.
TommyLee
28.09.2018 kl 12:48
6259
Ja, dette blir spennende :)
Ser ut som dette dessverre blir mye jevnere enn de siste månedene har vist.
Til uka kan det vel bli livlig her uansett.
Enten blir det trangt i døra for folk som skal ha aksjer, eller så blir det trangt i døra av baisere som kommer for å drite i sitt gamle rede.
Ser ut som dette dessverre blir mye jevnere enn de siste månedene har vist.
Til uka kan det vel bli livlig her uansett.
Enten blir det trangt i døra for folk som skal ha aksjer, eller så blir det trangt i døra av baisere som kommer for å drite i sitt gamle rede.
StalkingStock
28.09.2018 kl 12:58
6235
Sats Heller på Altai Resources Ink som kan hente opp betydlig store mengder gas uten og fracke.
Oppsiden er helt sinnsyk, Blir fracking lov så tar den helt av, blir det bare vanlig boring så tar den også av ;)
Oppsiden er helt sinnsyk, Blir fracking lov så tar den helt av, blir det bare vanlig boring så tar den også av ;)
Sheriff_1
28.09.2018 kl 13:04
6211
Du har nok delvis rett stalking stock. Men heller ikke ATI kommer nok til å ta helt av kortsiktig ved feil valgresultat.
Vinner CAQ så går nok alle liknende aksjer i quebec bananas og ATI vil nok være en av de hissigste.
Husk at ATI ikke har børsmeldt potensialet ved fracking forbud, så det vil nok bli en tur i kjelleren før de kommer med noe håndfast der også om Liberals skulle få for mye innflytelse igjen.
Jeg satser på CAQ og håper på en kjempefest neste uke :)
Merkelig at det er så lite meningsmålinger så tett på valget...
Vinner CAQ så går nok alle liknende aksjer i quebec bananas og ATI vil nok være en av de hissigste.
Husk at ATI ikke har børsmeldt potensialet ved fracking forbud, så det vil nok bli en tur i kjelleren før de kommer med noe håndfast der også om Liberals skulle få for mye innflytelse igjen.
Jeg satser på CAQ og håper på en kjempefest neste uke :)
Merkelig at det er så lite meningsmålinger så tett på valget...
Coalition Avenir Québec, which is neck-in-neck with the Liberal party to form the next provincial government of Quebec, is in hot water with environmentalists.
The controversy stems from comments made by CAQ leader François Legault. Legault recently said in a Radio-Canada interview that he wasn't ruling out shale fracking in Quebec’s grand nord for "socially acceptable" projects. Last June, the Liberal government in Quebec announced a ban on fracking, which is short for "hydraulic fracturing," a technique where a mixture of water, sand and chemicals is blasted through rock to release oil and gas. Fracking has not been banned outright anywhere in Canada, but there are moratoriums in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, and British Columbia ordered a scientific review of fracking by the end of the year.
Forty-five Quebec scientists, professors and other citizens circulated an open letter railing against Legault's comments and asking him to reconsider. “We want to make this election a pivotal moment, where people can evaluate the old destructive options and the new green options for the future and make a decision based on that,” one of the letter's signatories, Jesse Greener, a chemistry professor at the University of Laval, said in an interview with National Observer. The letter asked Legault for a commitment to ban all types of non-conventional fossil fuel extraction techniques in “any rock, be it shale, limestone, sandstone, dolomite.” The Petroleum Resources Act only bans fracking in shale.
The CAQ is in a competitive position against the incumbent Liberals, according to the latest polls during the campaign for the Oct. 1 Quebec election. “It's very bad positioning of the CAQ to leave that door open," Sidney Ribaux, executive director of Équiterre, said. "If there is one jurisdiction in the world that can say no, it's Quebec, because we have all the renewable energy that we could ever want," Ribaux added, referring to Quebec’s hydro power industry. "Fossil fuels have a higher cost from an economic and environmental point of view. It makes no sense to be going in that direction.”
But the CAQ did not back down. The party affirmed in a questionnaire from a coalition of environment groups that it would be "open to an evaluation of oil resources” on the shale-oil rich island of Anticosti in the Gulf of St. Lawrence. Legault has said that he believes that the largest contribution Quebec can make to fight climate change is to export hydro power to the U.S., which he implies will precipitate the closure of coal and oil-fired plants. The party will not end fossil fuel subsidies or halt the construction of new oil and gas infrastructure. Nor will it fully commit to reaching the Biodiversity Convention's protection rate of 10 per cent of marine areas and 17 per cent of land by 2020. And it would not implement a tax proposed by environmental groups on gas-guzzling vehicles to collect revenues for incentives to buy zero-emissions vehicles.
The Liberals have also taken flack during the campaign from environmentalists for not going far enough to protect Quebec’s rivers and lakes from drilling in amendments to the Petroleum Resources Act that come into effect this month.
Scientists 'troubled' by what may be coming
"Fracking is an environmentally damaging process that comprises human health, poisons drinking water, contributes to air pollution and may even cause earthquakes,” the letter said. “These facts have already caused a groundswell of public opposition to fracking and other unconventional drilling techniques in Quebec, with over 300 municipalities having adopted stricter rules to protect against pollution generated by the oil and gas industry."
The scientists also wrote that they were “troubled” by the fact that the words “shale gas” and “petrol” had been dropped from the CAQ’s website in favour of the more general term “natural resource exploitation.”
CAQ spokesperson Ewan Sauves said fracking would not be allowed in bodies of water, in the St. Lawrence Valley, near densely populated areas, and where there is not “social acceptability.”
When questioned about the concerns raised in the letter, Sauves told National Observer that while the CAQ would “not ignore the advice of experts and scientists,” its measurement of social acceptability would focus on getting the support from “the people who are most affected by the project, the people who live in the [local] area.”
Legault’s political adversaries were quick to criticize the change, according to the Canadian Press. Péquiste leader Jean-François Lisée accused the party of trying to hide its position and said it was "clear that the CAQ is Quebec’s pro-oil party." Liberal leader Philippe Couillard said the CAQ was trying to “hide the fact that, essentially, it is a bit partial to Quebec’s oil industry." Manon Massé, Quebec solidaire spokesperson, called the move "disgusting."
New Petroleum Resources Act too weak, critics say
Liberal policy has been criticized, too, during the campaign. The Liberals have been accused by environmentalists of not going far enough to protect Quebec’s rivers and lakes from drilling in amendments to the Petroleum Resources Act that come into effect this month.
Despite repeated assertions from the governing Liberal party that it would not open the door to drilling in Quebec’s waterways, the latest amendments to the province’s Petroleum Resources Act have angered environmentalists for not going far enough to protect Quebec’s lakes and rivers.
The new regulations add Malbaie Bay, Gaspé Bay and Chaleurs Bay to 13 waterways already protected from drilling. They do not include an outright ban on drilling in water environments.
Drilling is required for both fracking and for conventional gas extraction and exploration, and the Petroleum Resources Act does not make a distinction between them in the regulations.
“[The Liberals] lied, there’s no other way to say it,” said Carole Dupuis, until recently the general coordinator for a hydrocarbon awareness group called Regroupement Vigilance Hydrocarbures Québec.
“Drilling is still allowed everywhere apart from the 13 waterways and three new bays. Lake and river drilling is allowed.”
Dupuis is also concerned that the ban on fracking in shale has not been extended to other geologies.
“In the St. Lawrence Valley you have a lot of shale and gas, but you also have other kinds of rocks at different levels underneath. There’s also sandstone or limestone,” she said.
“The door [to fracking] is wide open in the eastern parts of the province, lower St. Lawrence and Gaspé area, because there's no shale there.”
Both the Parti Quebecois and Quebec solidaire have said that they will allow no more fossil fuel exploration and exploitation in Quebec if elected.
The controversy stems from comments made by CAQ leader François Legault. Legault recently said in a Radio-Canada interview that he wasn't ruling out shale fracking in Quebec’s grand nord for "socially acceptable" projects. Last June, the Liberal government in Quebec announced a ban on fracking, which is short for "hydraulic fracturing," a technique where a mixture of water, sand and chemicals is blasted through rock to release oil and gas. Fracking has not been banned outright anywhere in Canada, but there are moratoriums in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, and British Columbia ordered a scientific review of fracking by the end of the year.
Forty-five Quebec scientists, professors and other citizens circulated an open letter railing against Legault's comments and asking him to reconsider. “We want to make this election a pivotal moment, where people can evaluate the old destructive options and the new green options for the future and make a decision based on that,” one of the letter's signatories, Jesse Greener, a chemistry professor at the University of Laval, said in an interview with National Observer. The letter asked Legault for a commitment to ban all types of non-conventional fossil fuel extraction techniques in “any rock, be it shale, limestone, sandstone, dolomite.” The Petroleum Resources Act only bans fracking in shale.
The CAQ is in a competitive position against the incumbent Liberals, according to the latest polls during the campaign for the Oct. 1 Quebec election. “It's very bad positioning of the CAQ to leave that door open," Sidney Ribaux, executive director of Équiterre, said. "If there is one jurisdiction in the world that can say no, it's Quebec, because we have all the renewable energy that we could ever want," Ribaux added, referring to Quebec’s hydro power industry. "Fossil fuels have a higher cost from an economic and environmental point of view. It makes no sense to be going in that direction.”
But the CAQ did not back down. The party affirmed in a questionnaire from a coalition of environment groups that it would be "open to an evaluation of oil resources” on the shale-oil rich island of Anticosti in the Gulf of St. Lawrence. Legault has said that he believes that the largest contribution Quebec can make to fight climate change is to export hydro power to the U.S., which he implies will precipitate the closure of coal and oil-fired plants. The party will not end fossil fuel subsidies or halt the construction of new oil and gas infrastructure. Nor will it fully commit to reaching the Biodiversity Convention's protection rate of 10 per cent of marine areas and 17 per cent of land by 2020. And it would not implement a tax proposed by environmental groups on gas-guzzling vehicles to collect revenues for incentives to buy zero-emissions vehicles.
The Liberals have also taken flack during the campaign from environmentalists for not going far enough to protect Quebec’s rivers and lakes from drilling in amendments to the Petroleum Resources Act that come into effect this month.
Scientists 'troubled' by what may be coming
"Fracking is an environmentally damaging process that comprises human health, poisons drinking water, contributes to air pollution and may even cause earthquakes,” the letter said. “These facts have already caused a groundswell of public opposition to fracking and other unconventional drilling techniques in Quebec, with over 300 municipalities having adopted stricter rules to protect against pollution generated by the oil and gas industry."
The scientists also wrote that they were “troubled” by the fact that the words “shale gas” and “petrol” had been dropped from the CAQ’s website in favour of the more general term “natural resource exploitation.”
CAQ spokesperson Ewan Sauves said fracking would not be allowed in bodies of water, in the St. Lawrence Valley, near densely populated areas, and where there is not “social acceptability.”
When questioned about the concerns raised in the letter, Sauves told National Observer that while the CAQ would “not ignore the advice of experts and scientists,” its measurement of social acceptability would focus on getting the support from “the people who are most affected by the project, the people who live in the [local] area.”
Legault’s political adversaries were quick to criticize the change, according to the Canadian Press. Péquiste leader Jean-François Lisée accused the party of trying to hide its position and said it was "clear that the CAQ is Quebec’s pro-oil party." Liberal leader Philippe Couillard said the CAQ was trying to “hide the fact that, essentially, it is a bit partial to Quebec’s oil industry." Manon Massé, Quebec solidaire spokesperson, called the move "disgusting."
New Petroleum Resources Act too weak, critics say
Liberal policy has been criticized, too, during the campaign. The Liberals have been accused by environmentalists of not going far enough to protect Quebec’s rivers and lakes from drilling in amendments to the Petroleum Resources Act that come into effect this month.
Despite repeated assertions from the governing Liberal party that it would not open the door to drilling in Quebec’s waterways, the latest amendments to the province’s Petroleum Resources Act have angered environmentalists for not going far enough to protect Quebec’s lakes and rivers.
The new regulations add Malbaie Bay, Gaspé Bay and Chaleurs Bay to 13 waterways already protected from drilling. They do not include an outright ban on drilling in water environments.
Drilling is required for both fracking and for conventional gas extraction and exploration, and the Petroleum Resources Act does not make a distinction between them in the regulations.
“[The Liberals] lied, there’s no other way to say it,” said Carole Dupuis, until recently the general coordinator for a hydrocarbon awareness group called Regroupement Vigilance Hydrocarbures Québec.
“Drilling is still allowed everywhere apart from the 13 waterways and three new bays. Lake and river drilling is allowed.”
Dupuis is also concerned that the ban on fracking in shale has not been extended to other geologies.
“In the St. Lawrence Valley you have a lot of shale and gas, but you also have other kinds of rocks at different levels underneath. There’s also sandstone or limestone,” she said.
“The door [to fracking] is wide open in the eastern parts of the province, lower St. Lawrence and Gaspé area, because there's no shale there.”
Both the Parti Quebecois and Quebec solidaire have said that they will allow no more fossil fuel exploration and exploitation in Quebec if elected.
sheepman
29.09.2018 kl 15:50
5297
Det er virkelig game over: CAQ spokesperson Ewan Sauves said fracking would not be allowed in bodies of water, in the St. Lawrence Valley, near densely populated areas, and where there is not “social acceptability.”
Det hjelper med andre ord ikke at det blir regjeringsskifte!!
- Lykke til!
Det hjelper med andre ord ikke at det blir regjeringsskifte!!
- Lykke til!
Z00L
29.09.2018 kl 16:22
5228
Dette er virkelig gammelt nytt og da selvsagt ikke game over, QEC sine ord gjentatt dette.
Det er ikke snakk om fracking i vann, irrelevant, og QEC har bygget opp aksept i alle kjerneområder. Se presentasjonene selv på questerre.com. Vinner CAQ så er det game on.
Det er ikke snakk om fracking i vann, irrelevant, og QEC har bygget opp aksept i alle kjerneområder. Se presentasjonene selv på questerre.com. Vinner CAQ så er det game on.
Vuppz
29.09.2018 kl 16:30
9020
Her er ingenting avgjort før valget er over. Det ville jo ikke være særlig smart av CAQ å si noe annet enn dette dagen før dagen i valgkampen, og dermed miste regjeringsmakten på målstreken. Løpet er ikke kjørt, CAQ er uansett mer frackingvennlig enn det nåværende regjeringspartiet. Jeg stoler på at Michael Binnion ordner opp i dette så snart valget er over.
norman
29.09.2018 kl 17:46
8903
sheepman skrev Dette er noe de for øvrig også har sagt tidligere
Det finnes ikke noe game over i Quebec før valget er over, Sheepman. Dette vet du meget godt. Hvis CAQ vinner valget med mandatflertall, så ligger veien åpen for fracking, også i St. Lawrence Lowlands. Får de ikke mandatflertall så er det game over. Hvis ikke domstolen sier noe annet da.
sheepman
29.09.2018 kl 18:18
8836
I følge opposisjonen, så vil de ikke tillate fracking i Lowlands… - Må nesten stole på det de sier!
norman
29.09.2018 kl 18:33
8803
Du har vel fulgt med lenge nok nå til å vite at man ikke kan stole på politikerne i Quebec. Jeg stoler heller ikke på dem, og sitter på gjerdet. Men så lenge partiet er pro fracking og har lovet en voldsom økonomisk vekst, så er alt mulig.
StalkingStock
29.09.2018 kl 18:56
8764
Sheepman, Hvor står det at opposisjonen er imot fracking i lowlands?
Det det står er at de ikke vil tillate det i vann og hvor det er høy populasjon.
Dette virker mer som ett desperat forsøk på og baise i håp om å komme inn ennå billigere til mandag.
Det skrives også at Caq er i hard vær med de her grønne fjottene pga at de vil tillate fracking i shale ;)
Det det står er at de ikke vil tillate det i vann og hvor det er høy populasjon.
Dette virker mer som ett desperat forsøk på og baise i håp om å komme inn ennå billigere til mandag.
Det skrives også at Caq er i hard vær med de her grønne fjottene pga at de vil tillate fracking i shale ;)
norman
29.09.2018 kl 18:57
8795
Ser nå at det nærmer seg et mandatflertall også. Dette er helt åpent.
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/qcvotes/poll-tracker/
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/qcvotes/poll-tracker/
Domus
29.09.2018 kl 19:03
8775
Det hevdes at det offisielle og uoffisielle CAQ ikke helt samsvarer...
CAQ rykker smålig ifra på tampen her ser vi. Tror vi kan få en gledelig dag på Oslo børs mandag 1. oktober! Der kan det bli mye blått.
dotcom
29.09.2018 kl 19:44
8687
Er det fortsatt noen som har tro på QEC på kort og mellomlang sikt?
Selv solgte jeg meg ut etter meldingen på rundt 4,20 med et lite tap. Jeg har ikke angret et sekund.
Det er dyrt å forelske seg i aksjer hvis man blir med hele veien ned.
Selv solgte jeg meg ut etter meldingen på rundt 4,20 med et lite tap. Jeg har ikke angret et sekund.
Det er dyrt å forelske seg i aksjer hvis man blir med hele veien ned.
Z00L
29.09.2018 kl 19:55
8748
Med mandatflertall vil det bli plankekjøring for CAQ.
Nå er jo dette bare en meningsmåling, men alle meningsmålinger inkluderer aldersgruppen 18-35, blant disse står ikke CAQ sterkest. Valgdeltakelse for disse ligger på ca 56%, som indikerer enda sterkere resultat for CAQ enn målingene gir uttrykk for.
Nå er jo dette bare en meningsmåling, men alle meningsmålinger inkluderer aldersgruppen 18-35, blant disse står ikke CAQ sterkest. Valgdeltakelse for disse ligger på ca 56%, som indikerer enda sterkere resultat for CAQ enn målingene gir uttrykk for.
stocken
29.09.2018 kl 19:59
8734
Kjøpte 30 k på fredag,kurs 3,06,spennende å være med etter valget på mandag!
sheepman
29.09.2018 kl 22:42
8466
CAQ spokesperson Ewan Sauves said fracking would not be allowed in bodies of water, in the St. Lawrence Valley, near densely populated areas, and where there is not “social acceptability.”
ok stalkingstock? Dette er ikke første gang de sier dette..... Hvis opposisjonen vinner så blir det fortsatt ingen fracking i lowlands,,,,,,
ok stalkingstock? Dette er ikke første gang de sier dette..... Hvis opposisjonen vinner så blir det fortsatt ingen fracking i lowlands,,,,,,
Yzf R1
29.09.2018 kl 23:10
8416
Da drar de fra ved siste oppdatering.
Quebec poll just got updated couple hours ago!!! THE CAQ IS STILL CLIMBING, up another 10% to 89% chance of WINNING
Quebec poll just got updated couple hours ago!!! THE CAQ IS STILL CLIMBING, up another 10% to 89% chance of WINNING
Kan du sende link? Finner ikke frem
SebCoe
30.09.2018 kl 10:24
7891
Veldig gode nyheter for Qec. Nå gjør CAQ rent bord og kommer til å styre skuta i Quebec neste 4 årene. Betyr bare en ting.... Qec skal skinne!