GOGL -Vi er i startgropen i en supersyklus (4)

nman
GOGL 21.06.2022 kl 22:26 347341

Lager nok en ny tråd, da forumet ikke takler store tråder.

Her er link til den forrige tråden:
https://finansavisen.no/forum/thread/146399/view
vulkan
14.09.2022 kl 10:20 3599

Hva skjer? Bulk rater skulle jo gå i dass i flere år fremover. Vi er i en resesjon verden ikke har sett før hvor fall i bulkvareetterspørsen var garantert.....
For en manisk deppresiv bransje....
KJEPET
14.09.2022 kl 10:14 3614

100000 aksjer dekket på 4 minutter. He, he. Dette skal bli morsomt fremover :-)
KJEPET
14.09.2022 kl 10:02 3638

C5 $9.9 nå, 10,4% over index i går :-)
KJEPET
14.09.2022 kl 09:33 3661

Fortsatt for tidlig å friskmelde tørrlast. MEN om det snur nå, og signalene fra China fortsetter å dreie over i positivt terreng, så kan det blir veldig moro å sitte i GOGL fremover. Papiret er tungt shortet (3.1%) og shortandelen har ikke vært så stor på mange år :-)
https://shortnordic.com/detaljer_selskap.php?company=GOLDEN%20OCEAN%20GROUP&land=norway
nman
14.09.2022 kl 08:52 3782

“Iron ore arrivals at Chinese ports declined 2.32 million tonnes last week, and when combined with a continuation of robust daily port offtakes, should result in a material draw in portside inventories,” said Navigate Commodities Managing Director Atilla Widnell.

Iron ore shipments from Australia and Brazil declined 1.52 million tonnes over the same period, tightening the near-term balance, he added.

China’s iron ore portside inventory declined for the first time in 11 weeks to 142.1 million tonnes, as of Sept. 9, SteelHome consultancy data showed.

The blast furnace capacity utilisation rate among 247 Chinese steel mills regularly surveyed by Mysteel consultancy increased to 87.56% over Sept. 2-8, rising for the sixth straight week.

Other steelmaking inputs also rose, with Dalian coking coal and coke climbing 5% and 3.3%, respectively.

Intensified government support for China’s ailing property sector and its COVID-ravaged economy also buoyed market sentiment.
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/iron-ore-extends-gains-on-supply-concerns-china-demand/
Golden Goat
14.09.2022 kl 08:36 3831

Intermodal rapporterer bestilling av 11 store LNG skip og 12 store container skip. 2025-bestillingene fortsetter å fylle seg opp.Containerbestillingen har leveringsdato t.o.m. 2026.
Sonatrach
14.09.2022 kl 08:36 3789

Trøim er ikke like balleløs som Fredly!
fattigstakkar
13.09.2022 kl 17:05 4257

behagelig å sitte i bulk i dag når det meste annet raser.
Sonatrach
13.09.2022 kl 15:10 4404

Bulk Drittanalyse i TW i går:

Capesize bulker spot market may just meet operating costs until end of 2025, analysts say
Low spot rates are pushing shipowners to send their vintage vessels to the scrapyard

12 September 2022 16:30 GMT UPDATED 12 September 2022 17:13 GMT
The capesize bulker market has been in a funk for weeks as a result of China’s real estate market, but analysts are not expecting the sector to boom anytime soon.
The Baltic Exchange’s Capesize 5TC average of five key spot rates improved 12.5% on Monday to $6,270 per day after battling back from a low of $2,505 per day on 31 August.

But analysts were not celebrating on Monday as they pointed out that this average spot rate falls well short of meeting operating costs, and that it may only go high enough to allow shipowners to pay the bills over the next couple of years.

The futures market is indicating that the average spot rate for 2022 may go as high as $14,000 per day, just enough to meet operating expenses, Fearnleys Securities wrote in a note on Monday.

“[This] will set pressure on earnings estimates going forward, hence our hold recommendation on the space,” Fearnleys said.
In spite of the gloom, Monday was a better day in the forward freight agreement (FFA) market, with capesize contracts settling higher across the board, especially for front-month contracts.

Paper for October settled $2,282 higher at $16,371 per day on Monday. Contracts for the fourth quarter of this year settled $1,822 higher at $16,727 per day.
There were also some small gains for early 2023, seasonally the weakest time of the year for the capesize market. Contracts for the first quarter of 2023 closed at $8,429 per day, $600 higher than on Friday.

Fearnleys said it expects this year’s third quarter to show strong earnings due to strong bookings but rates may bottom out in next year’s first quarter, based on the forward freight agreement rate for that period.

Clarksons Securities estimated average spot rates of $12,500 per day for this year, $14,250 per day for 2023 and $15,250 per day for 2025 — a trend that will only serve to keep the scrapyards busy.

“Scrapping has picked up with additional two capes scrapped last week,” Clarksons Securities wrote in its Monday note.
The investment banking arm of Clarksons also noted that 14 capesizes have gone under the torch so far this year, none of which had ballast water treatment systems (BWTS). The ships had an average age of 22 years.

Currently, about 0.8% of the capesize fleet is 19 to 20 years old and does not have a BWTS, according to data from Clarksons Research.
“If the market remains weak, vessels close to their next drydock and missing a BWTS are the most likely scrapping candidates due to the investments needed to continue operating,” Clarksons Securities said.

Fearnleys noted that panamaxes, however, are doing just fine, thanks to Atlantic grain volumes and port congestion.
The Panamax 5TC rose 47% last week to $16,800 per day on Friday. It rose another 3.1% on Monday
Fjellbris
13.09.2022 kl 12:16 4695

13.09.2022 12:14:39
BULK: BALTIC CAPESIZE-INDEKS +42,78% TIL USD 8.952/DAG

Oslo (Infront TDN Direkt): Baltic Capesize-indeksen er opp 42,78 prosent til 8.952 dollar pr dag, ifølge The Baltic Exchange.
bulb
13.09.2022 kl 12:14 4710

Cape spot up 2,682 to 8,952$/day
Golden Goat
13.09.2022 kl 11:01 4886

Kinacapen opp 33,5%:

China-Japan/Pacific Round Voyage: 10472 (+2629)
Golden Goat
13.09.2022 kl 09:45 5046

Allied rapporterer 2 nye skrapinger av capesize skip. Hun ene Cic Pride bygget 2002 og hun andre med navnet Winning Integrity bygget 2000 solgt til skraphaugen for rett under 13 mUSD.
nman
13.09.2022 kl 07:05 5247

Verdt å lese. Tar med konklusjonen her:

Conclusion
Compared to our last update, the global economy is facing stronger headwinds, and slower growth in China is of particular concern. The risk of a global recession has increased as central banks combat high inflation rates through a combination of increased interest rates and a reduction in fiscal stimulus.
We have therefore lowered our volume forecast but expect tonne miles demand to increase by 2-3% in 2023, compared to capacity supply growth of 0-1%. Risks remain to the demand forecast but capacity supply could also fall if demolition activity exceeds our forecast. Overall, we expect that demand will grow faster than capacity supply and improve market conditions.
For the rest of 2022, we expect an improvement in market conditions compared to present as the EU ban of Russian coal will add tonne miles and Chinese demand could rebound. Freight and time charter rates could therefore improve compared to recent levels, although we consider it unlikely that the market will reach the highs achieved earlier in the year.
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/dry-bulk-market-eus-ban-on-russian-coal-lifts-demand-despite-economic-headwinds/
nman
13.09.2022 kl 06:55 4207

Nasdaq-shorten økt med drøyt millionen ved utgangen av august. Nærmer seg 10 mill.
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/gogl/short-interest

På Oslo børs er Citadel igjen over 0.5% grensa.
Totalt 6.28 mill shorta ajsjer her.
https://ssr.finanstilsynet.no/Home/Details/BMG396372051
Hardingen
12.09.2022 kl 21:21 4344

Dry Bulk Update (BUY)

Due to the weakening of the demand side, we revise down all of our dry bulk target prices. However, with a supply side that is looking more and more favorable, we still see significant upside going forward and reiterate BUY on the segment.

Cleaves
JimmiHenriksen
12.09.2022 kl 19:16 4498

Akkurat som jeg sa nedenfor. Intet Lyn: Det er valg i sentralkomiteen i november. Xi skal da fremstå suksessrik. Ikke covid, ikke krise i eiendom.
Golden Goat
12.09.2022 kl 17:01 4678

FFA:

CAPE
Sep 9000 +1500
Oct 16250 +2250
Q4 16708 +2000
Q1 8500 +500
Cal23 13625 +575

PMAX
Sep 15875 +775
Oct 17750 +1750
Q4 17092 +1542
Q1 12075 +575
Cal23 12393 +394
Golden Goat
12.09.2022 kl 16:28 4747

Annenhåndsmarkedet for tankere i kraftig oppgang og vil u-unngåelig bli mettet og videre medføre nybyggbestillinger.

https://twitter.com/VesselsValue/status/1569316846003798016?s=20&t=SKmIKcS4mrCmwxSEgQfW4w
KJEPET
12.09.2022 kl 15:57 4714

Som sagt ikke lett å forstå på hvordan man løser tingene i China.

Plutselig kom denne fra klar himmel. Det bør kunne sende råvarer og shipping et godt stykke opp :-)
https://twitter.com/DryBulkETF/status/1569321275616641035
Redigert 12.09.2022 kl 16:03 Du må logge inn for å svare
JimmiHenriksen
12.09.2022 kl 12:41 4966

Valg i Kina november: 1) Xi ønsker neppe oppblomstring av kovid innen den tid. Xihar hatt null-visjon, hvilket jo selvsagt ikke er mulig, følgelig vil vi neppe se slike strenge nedstengnings-tiltak etter valget. 2) Bolig-kollaps vil nok dagens regime sørge for at ikke skjer. Konsekvensene vil være for stor.
Redigert 12.09.2022 kl 12:42 Du må logge inn for å svare
nman
12.09.2022 kl 12:28 5010

India beregnes å trenge mer kullkraft de kommende årene selv kulls andel av totalen går ned:
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-may-need-up-28-gw-new-coal-fired-plants-advisory-body-2022-09-12/
nman
12.09.2022 kl 12:22 5023

Jepp, men dette var forrige uke. Stengt i Kina i dag.
Golden Goat
12.09.2022 kl 12:14 5028

På den annen side er BCI godt opp:

BULK: BALTIC CAPESIZE-INDEKS +12,5% TIL USD 6.270/DAG
Golden Goat
12.09.2022 kl 12:10 5011

Som ventet, ingen chinacape i dag grunnet nasjonal helligdag. Blir neppe mye trøkk fra denne kanten disse dager.
Slettet bruker
12.09.2022 kl 12:02 5024

Dårlige greier
Capesize $/day 7843 -283
KJEPET
12.09.2022 kl 10:38 5189

Som jeg skrev forrige uke, så vil panamax ha nok å henge fingrene fremover. Ser at FFA Q4 har styrket seg ganske kraftig siste to ukene. Spørsmålet er om capen følger etter? Det er noen få positive signaler fra China om dagen, men mest negativt. Jeg ser at mange bruker demografien som er påskudd til at China går dårlig nå. Det argumentet har et mye lengere tidsperspektiv. Derimot er eiendomsmarkedet viktigere i det korte og mellomlange bildet. Der er det stor usikkerhet fortsatt. Noen tiltak har blitt gjort, men tror de fortsatt vil slite en stund til. Men China er ikke som andre land så de er vanskelige å bli klok på.

Ser at malmlagrene går noe ned og at stållagrene er på lave nivåer. Det kan bane vei for en liten opptur i ratene i høst. Synes det alt i alt ser litt lysere ut fremover enn det gjorde for noen uker siden. Når det snur i tørrlast skjer det fort. Blir spennende å se om en av børsenes aller mest shortede aksje (2.6% short) kan komme seg på beina igjen i løpet av høsten. Lykke til :-)
nman
12.09.2022 kl 06:42 5450

Myndighetene i Argentina presser bøndene til å eksportere mere soya.
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/with-carrot-and-stick-argentina-government-drives-soy-sale-bonanza/
nman
10.09.2022 kl 07:59 6049

Sterk uke for panamax:

The panamax index was up for the seventh consecutive session, gaining 108 points, or about 6.2%, to 1,865, an over three-week high. It posted a 46.7% weekly gain, its best since early July, 2014.
Average daily earnings for panamaxes, which usually carry coal or grain cargoes of about 60,000 to 70,000 tonnes, were up $971 at $16,786.
Analysts have attributed the gains mostly to higher grain shipments, especially from Brazil, of late.

https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/baltic-index-advances-as-panamax-segment-logs-best-week-in-over-8-years/
nman
10.09.2022 kl 07:52 6047

Kinastimuli:
Dalian and Singapore iron ore futures rose to two-week highs on Friday, posting their biggest weekly gains in six weeks, after top steel producer China announced more steps to support its COVID-ravaged economy.
Also aiding sentiment, a lower-than-expected August inflation reading in China sparked hopes for further central bank policy easing.

China’s intensified support for an ailing property market supported ferrous commodities, along with “an aggressive push to boost infrastructure spending as Beijing looks to support growth in the face of COVID-19 lockdowns,” ANZ commodity strategists said in a note.
After policymakers signalled a renewed sense of urgency to shore up the economy, China’s cabinet on Thursday announced more steps to spur investment, such as in new infrastructure projects.
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/iron-ore-futures-hit-two-week-highs-on-china-stimulus/
nman
09.09.2022 kl 21:32 6292

The iron ore price rose on Thursday after the Chinese city of Zhengzhou said it would start building stalled housing projects.
https://www.mining.com/iron-ore-price-back-above-100-as-chinese-city-vows-to-rescue-stalled-home-projects/
fattigstakkar
09.09.2022 kl 19:07 6453

Hvilke rater legger du til grunn for cape og pmax det neste året hvis du tror GOGL trenger emisjon?
tankardjr
09.09.2022 kl 18:50 6475

Det brenner på dassen i gogl. Går ikke lenge før gogl trenger emisjon når time charter går ut. De burde spare pengene og ikke betale ut dividende. Jin har bunnsolid balanse og utelukkende supra
Golden Goat
09.09.2022 kl 15:55 6664

Med Pmax på 15.450 USD/d, ser det ut som at det er disse som blir vår garantist for utbytte i Q4. Greit med en diversifisert flåte i disse tider. Spent på neste ukes meklerrapporter; det som er spennende er om vi ser flere store tankbestillinger og tørrbulk-skrapinge slik vi har sett de siste ukene.
Golden Goat
09.09.2022 kl 15:16 6729

Moon festival i dag og på mandag. Indeks blir nok ned også på mandag. Evt. trøkk kommer antakeligvis ikke tilbake før slutten av neste uke.

https://www.officeholidays.com/countries/china/2022
Golden Goat
09.09.2022 kl 15:08 6755

It is rumored today that Beijing plans to remove all property purchase restrictions in non-Tier 1 cities. This has led to a strong rally in Chinese real estate stocks.
Golden Goat
09.09.2022 kl 14:59 6748

Hva er grunnen til at du ser på OSL fremfor NASDAQ og bruker chart ikke justert for utbytte?
berntson
09.09.2022 kl 14:01 6823

https://www.tradingview.com/x/u004Myhz/ Mye kortere tidsramme enn i går. Denne modellen av GOGL utviklingen viser en "kortsiktig" trendskifte så lenge kurs forblir over motstand og Baltic dry Indeks fortsetter å prestere bedre kommende uke. Volum vil kunne føre pris opp til 92-98kr stykket. Dette er kun for tradere, fremdeles en god aksje å holde uavhengig av TA over lengre tidsramme.
berntson
08.09.2022 kl 23:22 7215

https://www.tradingview.com/x/JQ9BTtGf/ Gogl snur nok her. Solid bunn fra forskjellig tekniske aspekter