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I dag kl 16:08
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TheLondonOiler skrev MG even 50% of $150m is over 10 times of our current market cap.
Det vett vi alle, men hjelper ikke om firma tappes i flere år til = konkurs eller mer aksjeutvidele
tsu for all
I dag kl 15:15
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med andre ord det vil ta flere år til !!! då får vi vente på nye aksjeutvidelser om ikke det kommer mer inntekter en utgifter
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Piltingsrud
I dag kl 14:36
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Tror det finnes flere muligheter. ICSID kan ikke tvinge Tunisia til å betale, det har de ikke mandat / autoritet til. De kan heller ikke beordre arrest i midler e.l. Hvis Tunisia ikke betaler må Zenith enten inngå forlik eller innlede privat rettsak mot Tunisia. Zenith kan da benytte det som kalles Litigation Funding / Financing, at en tredje part finansierer / forskutterer kostnadene med rettsaken. Denne tredje parten kan også påta seg å føre saken, det finnes selskaper som driver med dette. Om noen av advokatfirmaene Zenith benytter i dag driver med dette har jeg ikke undersøkt, det hadde kanskje vært det beste så slapp man nye advokater, det ville nok spart både tid og penger. Slike avtaler kan også gjøres under en no cure pay avtale mener jeg, saksavhengig selvsagt, men en klar / overbevisende ICSID dom i Zeniths favør vil nok ansees som en god og kredittverdig sak. Zenith kan også selge i hvert fall deler av kravet til en tredje part for å få inn penger som MarketGunsling nevner. Om de kan selge hele kravet er jeg usikker på, men det er kanskje mulig, da kunne Zenith avsluttet dette og kommet seg videre. Tiden vil gå, alle involverte skal ha sin andel, ikke minst advokatene, og kanskje Tunisia kan anke saken videre hvis de taper en privat rettsak, at de vil prøve å trenere sakene lengst mulig, utmattelsestaktikk. Vi får håpe Zenith får tilkjent fulle saksomkostninger + renter på alle beløp også, det vil hjelpe godt på. Blir fort mye penger av renters rente når beløpene er store. Får Zenith tilkjent fulle saksomskostninger også blir det enda mer penger igjen til selskapet, samlede saksomkostninger kan bli ganske store beløp.
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Mdg1
I dag kl 13:15
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Adm øker jo med alle juriustene de ansetter. Nå tar du litt hard i med 40-60 mill på et kvartal.
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tsu for all
I dag kl 12:29
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hva forventer vi i morgen, hvor mye minus 2 kvartal - 40 til 60 mill, som vanlig ? adm og rente kostnader
MarketGunsling
I dag kl 10:20
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If the arbitration is found in Zenith's favour but Tunisia fails to pay then I think that they will find a specialist fund who will advance them some of the money awarded and enforce the payment themselves through legal means. Rockhopper Exploration did a similar thing with two different funders relating to their €190 million dispute with Italy. Obviously this means that the funder takes a share of the money received (I have no idea how much) but it does allow significant cash-flow into the company straight away from the funder.
Details on the Rockhopper arrangement can be seen here: https://www.legalfutures.co.uk/latest-news/third-party-funder-paid-e26m-for-backing-disputed-arbitration-award
Details on the Rockhopper arrangement can be seen here: https://www.legalfutures.co.uk/latest-news/third-party-funder-paid-e26m-for-backing-disputed-arbitration-award
BMU
I går kl 21:29
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Then we do wot we know the best: Block bank account ´s until they haw paid debts.
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TheLondonOiler
I går kl 15:49
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That’s impossible, the Tunisians have already been fined for not adhering to schedules in the court case. My guess is this will be settled out of court or the Tunisians will have to pay a very hefty legal bill. Also the top 3 legal firm would not take this case on unless there was a big financial reward for them.
Furuen
I går kl 09:59
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Hva skjer om Tunisia blir dømt, men lar være å betale? Det virker jo som at de gir fullstendig F i internasjonale regler.
TheLondonOiler
I går kl 09:49
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Just a reminder we have several arbitration proceedings against the Republic of Tunisia and ETAP (Entreprise Tunisienne d'Activités Pétrolières), focusing on disputes over contractual obligations and damages related to their oil production and development activities in Tunisia.
ICSID Arbitration: Zenith Energy and its subsidiaries have filed a claim under the ICSID Convention rules, seeking at least $48 million in damages. The claim alleges that Tunisia engaged in unreasonable obstructions affecting their Sidi El Kilani and Ezzaouia concessions. The arbitration process is ongoing, with significant steps taken, including procedural orders issued earlier in 2024.
ICC Arbitration (ETAP): This arbitration involves a claim of approximately $7.5 million, initiated due to ETAP's failure to comply with payment obligations for oil produced and sold by Zenith’s subsidiary. The Arbitral Tribunal has rejected ETAP’s request to include Tunisia as a co-defendant and has ordered ETAP to pay legal costs. A decision is expected by the end of 2024.
ICC Arbitration (SLK Concession): Zenith's claim here amounts to $85.8 million, covering damages from lost production revenue due to obstructions by Tunisian authorities. This arbitration is also ongoing, and Zenith has appointed renowned legal counsel to support their case.
The outcomes of these arbitrations are anticipated to be either a favorable award to Zenith or an amicable settlement, as per the company's assessments and legal advice received. I personally believe zenith will retrieved half of the $150m owed and with the first arbitration proceed to fund the Kazakhstan and USA assets which will start bringing value to the company.
ICSID Arbitration: Zenith Energy and its subsidiaries have filed a claim under the ICSID Convention rules, seeking at least $48 million in damages. The claim alleges that Tunisia engaged in unreasonable obstructions affecting their Sidi El Kilani and Ezzaouia concessions. The arbitration process is ongoing, with significant steps taken, including procedural orders issued earlier in 2024.
ICC Arbitration (ETAP): This arbitration involves a claim of approximately $7.5 million, initiated due to ETAP's failure to comply with payment obligations for oil produced and sold by Zenith’s subsidiary. The Arbitral Tribunal has rejected ETAP’s request to include Tunisia as a co-defendant and has ordered ETAP to pay legal costs. A decision is expected by the end of 2024.
ICC Arbitration (SLK Concession): Zenith's claim here amounts to $85.8 million, covering damages from lost production revenue due to obstructions by Tunisian authorities. This arbitration is also ongoing, and Zenith has appointed renowned legal counsel to support their case.
The outcomes of these arbitrations are anticipated to be either a favorable award to Zenith or an amicable settlement, as per the company's assessments and legal advice received. I personally believe zenith will retrieved half of the $150m owed and with the first arbitration proceed to fund the Kazakhstan and USA assets which will start bringing value to the company.
BMU
28.07.2024 kl 18:44
1094
When is question about acquisitions of Zenith sparsely I'm thinking about Kazak..Even the thinks like it seems its going in the same pattern as before its not exactly true.I think is just delay and nothing else. Universe newer don't repeat the same BS twice in the same pattern ore way ( I´m thinking about TP2 and Kazak.). It's just delay. Don't forget that AC and LB bout sum million of shares in march if I´m not mistaken. According to investment rulles thous who have inside information about company futer development which will influence share price in any way : it means up ore down they can't bye ore sale in this case bye. It haw to go at least 3 months from the day AC and LB bout the shares and the investors news about Kazakhstan
Aqualight
27.07.2024 kl 16:51
702
Det har INTET med spin at gøre MG, det er meget faktuelt, men man kan uden tvivl konstatere at du er forelsket i aktien, hvilket er yderst farligt.
AC hiver 1 million kr hver eneste måned i gage, og han levere ikke i nærheden af at forsvaren den betaling.
ALLE bliver fattigere, med undtagelse af 2 personer, AC og Luca, det er også faktuelt.
De indtægter der er i Italien, dækker kun de faktuelle udgifter, og eneste grund til at tallene i en kort periode blev udsendt via RNS, var for at forsvare den inkompetence det hele reelt dækker over.
Nu vil jeg igen nyde solen og en kold øl.
Aqualight 🇩🇰🇳🇴
AC hiver 1 million kr hver eneste måned i gage, og han levere ikke i nærheden af at forsvaren den betaling.
ALLE bliver fattigere, med undtagelse af 2 personer, AC og Luca, det er også faktuelt.
De indtægter der er i Italien, dækker kun de faktuelle udgifter, og eneste grund til at tallene i en kort periode blev udsendt via RNS, var for at forsvare den inkompetence det hele reelt dækker over.
Nu vil jeg igen nyde solen og en kold øl.
Aqualight 🇩🇰🇳🇴
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futureistoday
26.07.2024 kl 08:16
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Oljen som er produsert og som er på lager, er det som zenith har voldgiftskravet på mot etap. Her har det blitt tatt beslag i penger fra etap i en sveitsisk bankkonto holdt av etap for og sikre pengene frem til voldgiftskravet er avgjort.
Pr dags dato så produserer ikke selskapet olje, dette mener jeg de har skrevet i en av børsmeldingene. De produserte en skvett i robbana frem til lagringsmuligheter gikk tom. (Forstod det var meget begrenset lagring) da de ikke får solgt oljen fra robbana.
Etter det første voldgiftskravet (ICSID) ble sendt inn så meldte de at de fortsatt produserte, men det ble full stopp litt senere da de ble fratatt alt i Tunisia utenom el bibane og robbana. Dette skal stå i meldinger fra firmaet for de av dere som gidder lese selv. OG NEI, jeg sitter ikke og blar igjennom for dere som ikke gidder lete selv.
Pr dags dato så produserer ikke selskapet olje, dette mener jeg de har skrevet i en av børsmeldingene. De produserte en skvett i robbana frem til lagringsmuligheter gikk tom. (Forstod det var meget begrenset lagring) da de ikke får solgt oljen fra robbana.
Etter det første voldgiftskravet (ICSID) ble sendt inn så meldte de at de fortsatt produserte, men det ble full stopp litt senere da de ble fratatt alt i Tunisia utenom el bibane og robbana. Dette skal stå i meldinger fra firmaet for de av dere som gidder lese selv. OG NEI, jeg sitter ikke og blar igjennom for dere som ikke gidder lete selv.
MarketGunsling
25.07.2024 kl 21:56
1052
1. I know that they should have some oil in reserve because it has continued to be produced and they still own the license, but from a quick look I have not been able to find any company figures about how much this should be. I will probably be able to work it out from old production numbers but will not be able to do this until next week, so if you can find the data before then it would be much appreciated. An extra $15 million would certainly be a very welcome addition to the company bank accounts, but I suspect that this money will most likely be recovered in the third arbitration.
2. I think that everybody thinks that Zenith are going to win the court case. You just have to look at the legal expertise they have now got on their team.
2. I think that everybody thinks that Zenith are going to win the court case. You just have to look at the legal expertise they have now got on their team.
birol
25.07.2024 kl 15:31
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Like to add two thing
1: didnt they have oil in reserves for about 15-20M ? about 200k barrells+
2: The fact they renewed debt means the debt owners think they will win, if not the wouldnt renew cause they would lose their money. getting 15% a year in return a year is a big risk if they risk losing lots more if Zenith loses the court cases.
1: didnt they have oil in reserves for about 15-20M ? about 200k barrells+
2: The fact they renewed debt means the debt owners think they will win, if not the wouldnt renew cause they would lose their money. getting 15% a year in return a year is a big risk if they risk losing lots more if Zenith loses the court cases.
TheLondonOiler
25.07.2024 kl 14:26
1241
Technically you’re right, but the renegotiations delayed it and it’s good news. Simple as that.
futureistoday
25.07.2024 kl 14:16
1252
Du bør lese hva jeg svarte på, og ikke tillegge meg noe annet enn det. Han skrev at obligasjonene ble betalt på tide. Det er jo så langt fra sannheten du kommer, og de ble heller ikke betalte, de ble refinansierte til dårligere vilkår for zenith. Så at du kommer med en lang tirade av hva jeg mener eller ikke får du holde for deg selv. Jeg korrigerte feilen som ble sagt og la frem fakta
MarketGunsling
25.07.2024 kl 13:59
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Futureistoday – as always you take the most deeply negative spin on any Zenith news that you can. Of course this is good news. The company have issued new bonds that do not need to be paid until 2026, by which time they will probably have a number of producing US assets and also a significant cash injection from the results of the arbitrations with Tunisia which will make the payment of the bonds easier and the additional interest will be irrelevant.
It makes total business sense for Zenith to do this and it is not a big deal. Companies refinance debt all of the time dependent on where in their development cycle they actually are.
No doubt, you will argue from your relentlessly negative point of view that there could be no wins from any of the arbitrations and there could be now new assets acquired. Yes this is possible, but let’s face it, it is also extremely unlikely and very difficult to take seriously. After all, you could apply the same “whatabout” logic to negatively talk down the prospects of any company on the planet.
As I have mentioned on a number of occasions in the past, the first arbitration is pretty much guaranteed to be won by Zenith. The simple facts of the matter is that Zenith produced the oil, submitted it for sale and it was sold. Etap took the money from the sale and simply did not pay Zenith. It is clear breach of contract and basically amounts to theft. It is easily proveable and as close as you can get to a guaranteed win in a legal case. When interest and damages are added onto the top of the original $6.5 million that was stolen I fully expect Zenith to receive around $10 million this September.
Once the first arbitration is completed then the company will have a significant amount of money to invest into new producing acquisitions, presumably in the US, making this debt relatively easy to service.
Of course if they lose all of the arbitrations and do not acquire any other assets by 2026 then the company is done. It doesn’t take an investment genius to tell us that. However, if you go to the other extreme and assume that they win the full amount from all of the arbitrations and acquire a number of new US assets then you get a very different result. A company with $80+ million in the bank and a continuous monthly revenue of further millions of dollars. In this circumstance the additional interest they are paying on the bond refinancing is totally irrelevant.
Of course, the reality is likely to be somewhere in the middle. Zenith will not get everything they are after in the arbitrations but they will get a good chunk of it. They will fund some of this into Leopard and raise more money in the US and go out and acquire a number of significant producing assets. In this circumstance the bonds will still be easy to pay and the refinancing will still have been a clever business decision.
Given the current position of the company it is hard to work out how this bond refinancing could possibly be considered bad news. It is not game-changing news that is going to send the share-price rocketing upwards but is a sensible business decision that has helped put the company on a much more solid footing going forwards as we move into the resolution period of the first two arbitrations. There is only two months to go before we get the results of the first arbitration and only 8 months to go before we get the results of the first big one. I simply fail to see any justification for treating this as bad news.
It makes total business sense for Zenith to do this and it is not a big deal. Companies refinance debt all of the time dependent on where in their development cycle they actually are.
No doubt, you will argue from your relentlessly negative point of view that there could be no wins from any of the arbitrations and there could be now new assets acquired. Yes this is possible, but let’s face it, it is also extremely unlikely and very difficult to take seriously. After all, you could apply the same “whatabout” logic to negatively talk down the prospects of any company on the planet.
As I have mentioned on a number of occasions in the past, the first arbitration is pretty much guaranteed to be won by Zenith. The simple facts of the matter is that Zenith produced the oil, submitted it for sale and it was sold. Etap took the money from the sale and simply did not pay Zenith. It is clear breach of contract and basically amounts to theft. It is easily proveable and as close as you can get to a guaranteed win in a legal case. When interest and damages are added onto the top of the original $6.5 million that was stolen I fully expect Zenith to receive around $10 million this September.
Once the first arbitration is completed then the company will have a significant amount of money to invest into new producing acquisitions, presumably in the US, making this debt relatively easy to service.
Of course if they lose all of the arbitrations and do not acquire any other assets by 2026 then the company is done. It doesn’t take an investment genius to tell us that. However, if you go to the other extreme and assume that they win the full amount from all of the arbitrations and acquire a number of new US assets then you get a very different result. A company with $80+ million in the bank and a continuous monthly revenue of further millions of dollars. In this circumstance the additional interest they are paying on the bond refinancing is totally irrelevant.
Of course, the reality is likely to be somewhere in the middle. Zenith will not get everything they are after in the arbitrations but they will get a good chunk of it. They will fund some of this into Leopard and raise more money in the US and go out and acquire a number of significant producing assets. In this circumstance the bonds will still be easy to pay and the refinancing will still have been a clever business decision.
Given the current position of the company it is hard to work out how this bond refinancing could possibly be considered bad news. It is not game-changing news that is going to send the share-price rocketing upwards but is a sensible business decision that has helped put the company on a much more solid footing going forwards as we move into the resolution period of the first two arbitrations. There is only two months to go before we get the results of the first arbitration and only 8 months to go before we get the results of the first big one. I simply fail to see any justification for treating this as bad news.
futureistoday
25.07.2024 kl 09:39
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TheLondonOiler skrev The bonds repaid on time everything on track.
On time? Da følger du ikke med i timen. De skulle vært betalt i januar, altså for over ett halvt år siden, og nå har de egentlig ikke blitt betalt, de har blitt fornyet med en skyhøy rente. Så zenith har fremdeles like mye gjeld, bare til enda høyere rente. Og de har fremdeles ikke noe mer inntekter til og betale nevnte gjeld som de ikke klarte og betale i utgangspunktet og måtte refinansiere obligasjonene til dårligere vilkår for zenith. Hvertfall 88% av dem. De har ikke betalt de resterende prosentene ennå. Så den posten din er bare helt feil.
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Blientotre
23.07.2024 kl 19:45
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July 23, 2024
ZENITH ENERGY LTD.
("Zenith" or the "Company")
Successful Conclusion of Bond Exchange Offer
Zenith Energy Ltd. (LSE: ZEN
Kanskje ballen begynner å rulle nå?
ZENITH ENERGY LTD.
("Zenith" or the "Company")
Successful Conclusion of Bond Exchange Offer
Zenith Energy Ltd. (LSE: ZEN
Kanskje ballen begynner å rulle nå?
JobPeterson
23.07.2024 kl 16:22
1963
Jeg tror nyhetsstrømmen vil starte fra september hvor aksjekursen endelig vil bevege seg opp
Blientotre
23.07.2024 kl 14:11
2024
Forhåpentligvis får vi noe mer svar på tall vedrørende US og kanskje noe nærmere om utvidelsen som skulle skje i Italia nå ved årsrapporten og Q2 om få dager.
TheLondonOiler
18.07.2024 kl 14:53
2327
Zenith Energy's profit from its Italian assets comes primarily from its electricity production activities, particularly at the Torrente Cigno concession. Here, the company produces around 900 MWh of electricity per month using low-grade natural gas. This electricity is sold at an average price of approximately EUR 110 per MWh, generating net revenues of about EUR 110,000 per month. After accounting for production costs of about EUR 35,000 per month, the net profit from this operation is around EUR 75,000 per month compared .
Over the course of a year, this amounts to an estimated annual profit of approximately EUR 900,000 from the Torrente Cigno concession alone. Zenith also has interests in other natural gas and electricity production assets in Italy, which may contribute additional profit
Over the course of a year, this amounts to an estimated annual profit of approximately EUR 900,000 from the Torrente Cigno concession alone. Zenith also has interests in other natural gas and electricity production assets in Italy, which may contribute additional profit
tsu for all
18.07.2024 kl 12:58
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Blientotre skrev Vi nærmer oss rapport 31. Juli. Kan ha med den å gjøre.
takk, fikk litt til billig :) Regnskapet vil jo være underskudd pga liten produksjon av gass/olje, kun goe strøm inntekter fra Italia
Kostnader er som vanlig ADM med reiseutgifter mm og renter på lån
Kostnader er som vanlig ADM med reiseutgifter mm og renter på lån
tsu for all
17.07.2024 kl 23:21
2551
Blientotre skrev Vi nærmer oss rapport 31. Juli. Kan ha med den å gjøre.
NAV betaler pensjon 19 juli, blir trangt i døren :)
Allroad18
17.07.2024 kl 16:15
2729
1,2 millioner aksjer har blitt omsatt hittil idag, er ikke det mye for å være Zenith, og det endatil i ferien? Har svinget 0,02 ører fra topp til bunn idag, ikke akkurat noe å skrive hjem om. Blir nok slik framover i ferien, men interessant at volumet er større enn normalt.
TheLondonOiler
10.07.2024 kl 12:10
3470
From what I gather the first arbitration result for Zenith Energy against the Republic of Tunisia is expected in late-2024. Zenith Energy has initiated multiple arbitration proceedings, including an ICSID arbitration in Washington DC and an ICC arbitration in Paris, primarily related to contractual disputes and unpaid invoices for oil production. The ICSID case involves claims of at least $48 million due to various breaches of bilateral trade agreements and obstructions in oil sale processing by Tunisian authorities.
So I guess that’s only several months away before we get our first big uplift in the share price. Not long to wait.
So I guess that’s only several months away before we get our first big uplift in the share price. Not long to wait.
Blientotre
10.07.2024 kl 10:40
3526
Har de noe å dra opp fra hatten på Q4-kvartalsrapporten og årsrapporten den 31. juli.
Men av erfaring fra tidligere kommer det vel melding om utsettelse om ikke lenge.
Men av erfaring fra tidligere kommer det vel melding om utsettelse om ikke lenge.
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Blientotre
09.07.2024 kl 08:58
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Får håpe det snart begynne å interessere større investorer.
Skal ikke mye cash til for å gjøre stort innhugg i en stor eierandel.
For en million kroner kan du nært bli eier av 2%
Skal ikke mye cash til for å gjøre stort innhugg i en stor eierandel.
For en million kroner kan du nært bli eier av 2%
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BMU
08.07.2024 kl 20:57
3848
👍 not exactly that was primarily why I hung one to Zenith , I was thinking more about building an Empire and be a part of it. But it looks like universe haw different planes.I did not give up the hope, more like I surrender to the flow of events.
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JobPeterson
08.07.2024 kl 20:41
3866
mer tålmodighet kreves, men jeg kan se en stor regnbue for penger i enden av tunnelen.