Jeg veddet 2000 med deg på at prisen ikke ville falle under 0,17, og siden da har prisen steget til 0,22. En enkel unnskyldning fra deg ville vært tilstrekkelig, men det er tydelig at du er sta og ikke kan akseptere et tap :)

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JobPeterson
10.09.2024 kl 10:483160
futureistoday skrev
Mangler det noen nuller?
Vil du vedde 2000 euro på at dette vil være 0,18 eller høyere innen fredag? Du nevnte veddemålet.

Du sagde 10/9 at den ville være 0,18 eller højere end. 0,18.. 12/9 lukkede den i 0,175. Så har du vel tabt ?

Det har også vært en handel på 0,165

Hvis det var noe veddemål, så vant futureistoday det av de betingelsene jeg i hvert fall erindrer..

Som jeg regnede med så sluttede den i minus idag. Alt er som det plejer

På tide å erstatte AC og hans disipler! Hvem er forresten disiplene? Hvem er største aksjeeiere som alltid får førsteretten ved hver utvanning/emisjon..?

Sover dere alle sammen?

Er ingen som får tilbud om emisjon her, alltid lukkede emi’er der ac og miton henter aksjer. Aksjen er vannet ut til det ugjenkjennelige men ingen av de trofaste aksjonærene har fått tilbud sålangt. Tror nok det er fordi da måtte ledelsen forklart hva pengene skulle blitt brukt til, og når det viste seg og ikke stemme så hadde hatt ett større forklaringsproblem. Må løser de saken med bare og aldri invitere med i emi’er og svarer ikke aksjonærer på hverken Mail eller tlf. Super duper måte og beholde aksjonærer og ikke minst få med større aktører😉

Nei, vi sover ikke. I lang tid når de fleste her inne har sovet har vi vært våkne og plukket aksjer jevnt og trutt. Kommer til og bli tidenes julegave dette. Husk om de får gjennomslag for så mye som en brøkdel av første søksmål før du spiser julemiddagen din så skal vi rett opp i 1 krone etter min mening. Da gjentar historien seg og alle grinebiterene blir grådige og skal inn samtidig. Alltid like morsomt, gleder meg!

Nissen kommer ikke denne jul, men julen 2025 og 2026 :)
men ledelsen får nok ingen flere emisjon, så Inntekter fra Italia må dekke ADM og lån, renter

Nå har det vel blitt regnet ut at pr dd så er det ikke noen inntekter i Italia, forhåpentligvis så blir det litt nå når det går mot vinter, men det er langt ifra nok til og dekke løpende utgifter. Men vi får håpe oljesalget de har meldt om nå i oktober blir gjennomført. Så er det kanskje mulig og holde hodet over vannet til første sak blir avgjort.

Har sett litt over tallene, og vi har nok funnet prisen samme sted, men når jeg leter litt rundt så ser det it som de faktisk har hatt godt betalt for den elektriske biten allikevel, og mye av gassen de produserer omgjøres til elektrisitet. Så det er nok ikke så mørkt på den italienske biten likevel.

Gjerne arrester meg om jeg tar feil her, men fant flere som viste samme elektisitetprisen som jeg får opp i denne artikkelen gjennom året.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/italy-power-costs-stay-sky-high-despite-clean-energy-push-2024-09-20/

Håper du har rett!
Jeg har egentlig ingen peiling på hvordan de gjør det.

hei, noen som vet hva som er kravet i den første voldgiftsaken som skal være ferdig i løpet av desember 2024?

On February 17, 2023, Zenith announced that it had increased the claimed amount for SMP's failures during drilling activities to US$9 million in consideration of the significant commercial damages suffered by AAOGC, specifically the impossibility, as a direct result, to begin production activities from the Tilapia oilfield.

Det der er en annen sak som pågår etter drilling i Tilapia.

Saken i første voldsgift er omtrent 7.5mill$.

Vennligst slutt med å snakke tull. Vi får den første voldgiftsavgjørelsen om mindre enn 2 måneder. Hvis den er vellykket, vil alle hylle AC

Ingen som vil hylle ac for og få betalt for oljen som er den første icc’en der mesteparten av summen allerede er fryst i motpartens (Etap) midler i Sveits. Men skulle derimot den neste icc og/eller Icsid som er den siste gå igjennom med tilnærmet full pott uten enorme bonuser/ utvanninger til ledelsen som tar fra oss aksjonærer . Ja da skulle en tro at det blir delt ut smiger og ære i gode porsjoner. Men før det skjer så har ikke ac særlig god tillit i markedet. Det reflekteres til de grader i kursen som også er nesten uten handel. Hadde det vært stor tro til ac og tillit til hans utførelser så skal jeg garantere det hadde vært mye mer omsetning i aksjen enn 50-500k rett etter annonsering av krav om 7 milliarder. Der aksjen såvidt har beveger seg mot nord i det hele. Aksjen skulle jo gått rett til værs med enorm omsetning på slike nyheter, men her går det like fort som og øse vann med sil. En ren refleksjon av hvor mye markedet stoler på ac, det er ikke det første luftslottet som skulle gjøre alle til millionærer…

Nei! Ikke jeg! Jeg har vært med i atskillige år og det er ikke stort AC har fått til ! Men å prate.. Ja se det, der er han en fullblods italiener på sitt beste!

Your claims about dilutions to shareholders seem to be based more on speculation and negative sentiment than on any concrete facts. Instead of vague accusations, why not clarify exactly what you're concerned about? How much dilution or management bonuses are you suggesting could impact shareholders? Let's have the specifics. What exactly is it you're trying to warn us about?

Currently, the company’s market cap is around $6 million, which is already less than the value of the first arbitration claim alone. The SMP court case is valued at $9 million, which is 150% of the company's current market cap. If you consider the full value of all three arbitrations, the potential exceeds 100 times the current market cap. Despite these facts, you continue to suggest that we shareholders are at significant risk of losing out even if the court cases are won, which frankly doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.

Additionally, the idea that the stock should have skyrocketed purely based on the arbitration value is unrealistic. The share price did indeed rise when the news was first announced, reflecting the new amounts in play. However, it’s clear that the market is waiting for concrete success in the first arbitration before fully pricing in the potential from the second and third. There’s always a level of risk involved in ongoing legal matters, and it makes sense that the market is taking a measured approach.

If you have any specific concerns or actual numbers regarding dilution or management bonuses, let’s discuss those. Otherwise, it seems like your arguments are based more on creating fear rather than on the realities of the company's current situation and legal standing.

Look at ac’s track Record. Enough said

Is that your only response? You didn’t answer anything I had asked, each to their own.

Hvis du ikke klarer og se selv at ingen har tiltro til ac og ser selv at han aldri har levert på noe, tvert imot så unnlater de og fortelle når noe ikke går som det skal. Ikke svarer de aksjonærer eller noe. Kjører sitt eget løp og driter i alle oss som har investert i selskapet. Du kan få en utfordring av meg, skriv til selskapet og spør hvorfor vi ikke har hørt noe om Kazakhstan , eller om det er produksjon i robbana/el bibane. Så kan du poste svaret ditt her 😃👏🏻

Og ta gjerne med produksjonen som utføres i USA:-)

😃👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻

It sounds to me you are the main one here repeating the same rhetoric on a daily basis. Others have invested waiting patiently to see if we win the arbitration or not. The other assets are completely irrelevant as neither of them will add 150% to the market cap overnight, however a successful arbitration will. I would also like to add those assets were also very high risk high reward assets (apart from USA) which to be frank I believe would have caused more drama than good, therefore it worked out for the best.

Feil, vi er en hel gjeng som er akkurat like misfornøyde! Hvor mye produseres net til Zenith i USA?

Andrea Cattaneo, Chief Executive Officer, commented:

"We are pleased that CYAP has now completed its first acquisition in the US oil and gas space. The acquisition of a non-operated oil and gas production royalty delivers immediate monthly cashflow and will enable an attractive payback of the initial investment.

Så du får ikke svar du heller når du sender Mail til selskapet er det jeg tar fra denne utvekslingen 🫢

Here is an arbitration success Greenx just won £252 million against the Republic of Poland. Our case is much stronger so I am very confident we will be winning at least 50% of the money owed.

https://www.londonstockexchange.com/news-article/GRX/compensation-of-ps252m-in-successful-arbitration/16703935

GREENX WINS COMPENSATION AND INTEREST TOTALLING £252M MILLION IN SUCCESSFUL ARBITRATION OUTCOME

GreenX Metals Limited (GreenX, Claimant or Company) is pleased to report a successful outcome of the international arbitration claims (Claim) against the Republic of Poland (Poland or Respondent) under both the Australia-Poland Bilateral Investment Treaty (BIT) and the Energy Charter Treaty (ECT) (together the Treaties).
· The Company has been awarded approximately £252m (A$490m / PLN1.3bn) in compensation by the Tribunal under the BIT (BIT Award), which includes interest compounded at the Sterling Over-Night Interbank Average (SONIA) plus one percentage point (+1%) compounded annually from 31 December 2019 to the date of the award (7 October 2024). Interest will continue to accrue at SONIA +1% compounded annually until full and final payment by the Respondent.

· The Company has been awarded approximately £183m (A$355m / PLN 941m) in compensation by the Tribunal under the ECT (ECT Award), which includes interest compounded at the SONIA overnight rate +1% compounded annually from 31 December 2019. Interest will continue to accrue at SONIA +1% compounded annually until full and final payment by the Respondent.

· Both Awards are subject to any payments made by the Respondent to the Claimant in the other arbitration such that the Claimant is not entitled to double compensation i.e., any amount paid by Poland in one arbitration (i.e., BIT) is set off against Poland's liability in the other arbitration (i.e., ECT).

· Each party has been ordered to cover its own legal fees, expenses and arbitration costs in relation to the Claim, which in respect of GreenX are costs that have already been fully paid under the Litigation Capital Management (LCM) funding facility.

Hva nøyaktig er forskjellene på disse sakene, og hvorfor har vi en mye sterkere sak? Vennligst utdyp i detaljer slik vi andre kan bli like velinformerte som deg angående saken vår😃👏🏻👏🏻

To provide a comparison between Zenith and GreenX's claims, it's important to highlight several key factors that differentiate Zenith's situation from that of GreenX (formerly Prairie Mining) in their dealings with the Polish government:

Acquisition and Investment:

GreenX (Prairie Mining) acquired the Debiensko mine for €500k in 2016, along with ownership of the Jan Karski mine, and invested approximately A$4 million into these projects before they were halted by the Polish government.

In Zenith’s case, $6 million was effectively taken by the Tunisian authorities, a more direct and immediate loss of capital. This money was linked to production assets, giving Zenith a more established revenue-generating foothold in Tunisia compared to GreenX’s undeveloped mines.


Nature of Government Actions:

The Polish government issued a formal decree banning the development of GreenX’s projects, following their own legal processes. While GreenX faced a significant setback, the government's actions, although damaging, were taken through a legal and transparent framework.

In contrast, the Tunisian government’s actions in Zenith’s case appear to have involved no formal legal process, constituting a direct, unlawful seizure of assets, which strengthens the validity of Zenith’s claim.


Production Status:

At the time of the ruling against GreenX, they had no active production at either of their sites. Any potential revenue was based on future developments, which required significant investment and time.

Zenith, on the other hand, had significant production in place in Tunisia, meaning that Zenith had a revenue stream already established, making the loss more immediate and quantifiable in terms of current earnings and operational capacity.

Scope of the Claim:

GreenX’s claim against Poland included not only the money they invested but also lost future profits and damages, ultimately totalling A$1.3 billion. Their recent ruling resulted in an award of A$490 million, which is roughly one-third of the total claim.

Given Zenith’s stronger case, which involves not just the loss of future earnings but the direct loss of funds and production revenues, it stands to reason that Zenith's case could potentially be awarded a higher percentage of the total claim. If, like GreenX, Zenith were to receive even a third of their claim, it would be a substantial win, though the nature of Zenith’s case could yield a more favourable ruling.


The main reasons Zenith’s claim against Tunisia is likely stronger than GreenX’s case against Poland are:

Direct theft of funds rather than a legally sanctioned ban.
Operational production losses from an already revenue-generating asset.
The fact that Tunisia’s actions bypassed legal channels, making the case more clear-cut.

Precedent from GreenX’s ruling suggests a favourable outcome for Zenith in terms of future losses, but Zenith’s stronger legal footing suggests the case has the potential for a higher award percentage due to the more severe and immediate nature of the damages.

Takk for utfyllende svar😃👍🏻

Thanks thelondonoiler
I am agree do we pass frist claim case against Tunisia - we can start with russian 🍾💵👌%% again it looks very good now - my box is like always full with zenith share

My pleasure

Da kom det melding ang Italia produksjonen, da hadde jeg rett i siste innlegg ang prisene heldigvis👍🏻

the Company will seek to attract financing in 2025 to support the
development of Torrente Cigno, fulfilling a long-held strategic objective to
potentially significantly increase production and associated profitability."

Hvorfor skal de søke finansiering i 2025, når de:

1. venter betaling for olje bå i oktober

2. har første icc mot etap som de forventer og vinne (6.5 mill USD) med avgjørelse i slutten av 2024.

3. forventer positiv avgjørelse på icc nr 2 i første kvartal 2025 på 85.8 mill USD (muligens denne er høyere nå)

4. forventer positiv avgjørelse i rettsaken mot smp energies på 9mill USD i mars 2025.

Alt dette innen de neste 6 måneder. Allikevel så skal de søke finansiering i 2025? Hva er det de ikke sier? Skal de bruke denne finansieringen for og tildele seg mer aksjer selv før eventuelle utfall av voldgiftskravene?

https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcement/rns/zenith-energy-ltd-com-shs-npv-di---zen/update-on-italian-energy-production-/8478476

October 10, 2024


ZENITH ENERGY LTD.

("Zenith" or the "Company")

Update on Italian Energy Production


Zenith Energy Ltd. ("Zenith" or the "Company") (LSE: ZEN; OSE: ZENA; OTCQB:
ZENAF), the listed international energy production and development company, is
pleased to provide an update on its Italian energy production activities.

Italian Electricity Production - Torrente Cigno Concession ("Torrente Cigno")

The Company continues to generate electricity at the Torrente Cigno with an
average monthly production of approximately 1,000 megawatt hours ("MWh") during
the months of July, August and September 2024 (the “Period”).

Electricity prices averaged approximately EUR 120 per MWh across the Period,
resulting in cumulative net revenues of approximately EUR 360,000 for the
Period.

Zenith's current net production costs remain fixed at approximately EUR 35,000
per month.

Sant'Andrea natural gas production concession ("Sant'Andrea")

The Company had previously indicated an expected commencement of production
activities during the month of October 2024.

Zenith is still awaiting certain bureaucratic formalities to be completed and
will endeavour to commence production operations at the earliest opportunity
once the necessary approvals are received.

An initial production rate of approximately 1,500 cubic metres of natural gas is
expected upon the successful reactivation of Sant’Andrea.

Andrea Cattaneo, Chief Executive Officer, commented:

“Our Italian energy production portfolio continues to deliver robust
profitability, buoyed by recent increases in the energy pricing.

We continue to explore potential acquisition opportunities within Italy, whilst
at the same time awaiting completion of the necessary formalities to reactivate
Sant’Andrea.

In view of the highly successful energy production activities at Torrente Cigno
over recent years – and the recognition by the EU Parliament of natural gas as a
‘green fuel’ – the Company will seek to attract financing in 2025 to support the
development of Torrente Cigno, fulfilling a long-held strategic objective to
potentially significantly increase production and associated profitability.”