Generelt vil jeg si at en person som kan plante en støvel i skrittet på noen elitistiske politikere og dermed avdekke noen av de skitne hemmeligheter de utfører fortjener støtte og ros.
Men nå kan ikke jeg fordra politikere heller, selvsentrerte kappesnuere.

Edward Snowden er en russisk DS agent - ikke Julian Assange.

Assange er patriotisk helt av dimensjoner. Han vil til slutt få friheten tilbake... Følg med på Q!

Må du blande greiene fra den q sekten din inn på alle tråder hele tiden? Det er spam.

USA begjærer Assange utlevert. Det må være liten tvil om at det var kjekt for team Trump at feks podesta e-postene ble lekket på wikileaks under valgkampen. Selv om Trump vant og har makten kommer han vel til å bli straffeforfulgt om han blir utlevert til USA. Men vil han bli benådet etterpå? Hva skjedde med han Afghanistan soldaten som senere ble kvinne, er ikke han fri?

Interessant

BREAKING / NBC NEWS: The indictment unsealed against Julian Assange shows an allegation that he helped Chelsea Manning crack a password and get access to documents she would not normally have had access to. It is not for publishing the material.

Det gir litt mer mening nå hvorfor Chelsea Manning ikke ville la seg forhøre av storjuryen i Assangesaken og heller valgte å gå til fengsel igjen.

Hva konkret har Wikileaks og Assange bidratt til å opplyse oss om ?
(Kommer det fra disse el. DS, NWO syntetic/manipula industries el. hva ?)

Det forekommer at både Snowdon og Assange egentlig ikke er de liksom helter noen ønsker å fremstille de som.
Assange har vel noe bedre standing enn Snowdon ? Er egentlig skeptisk til begge. Synd, men sant.

De «folkevalgte» syns de bør få bryte lovene i fred og ikke bli avslørt av slike som Assange, det er det som ligger bak heksejakten på denne personen som vil gå inn i historien som en frihetsforkjemper.

Je tenker Jølian Assange er storkæll se. Hømo av myndighetene å skjule dritet sitt. Gjør noe og stå for det, grauthuer.

Hva tenker du, dirken?

Hvordan vil Trump og hans kompiser takle dette? De vil åpenbart være redd for at Assange begynner å snakke. Klarer de å lure inn en lovnad om tidlig benådning?

Pussig at kommer etter Brexit forlengelsesdagen til 31. okt.
"Bin Laden" stunt ?
Det stinker av dette.

Jeg likte Wikileaks best når de gav en hånstrekning til NRK/BBC/Guardian i avsløringen av råvaregiganten Trafigura. Selskapet bak giftskandalen i Elfenbenskysten og eksplosjonen på Vest Tank, nord for Mongstad.
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Trafigura_threats_to_Norwegian_press_over_Minton_report_exposing_toxic_dumping,_Sep_2009
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/16/trafigura-carter-ruck-the-guardian
https://www.nrk.no/dokumentar/interne-e-poster-avslorer-trafigura-1.6778396
https://www.nrk.no/emne/trafigura-og-slovag-eksplosjonen-1.2847739

The charges focus on Assange technically assisting Manning's hacking, making the charges more about Assange the hacker than Assange the journalist. It quashes some of the concerns about this being a crackdown on the free press.

https://www.axios.com/julian-assange-arrested-london-ecuador-bf2b0c6a-afa5-48f1-bf8c-d34d78b2cd8f.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

It's important that Assange is charged with helping Chelsea Manning hack classified U.S. networks, not with publishing the information. Under Supreme Court precedent, news outlets can publish ill-gotten materials -- but can't commit crimes to get the stuff

Han/hun er tilbake i buret.

https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/5caf3f94ea3f420012dfc9a2https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/5caf3f94ea3f420012dfc9a2
Siktelsen har en strafferamme på fem år!, hvilket er en lokkedue for å få UK til å utlevere ham, siden USA har dødsstraff. Fem år maks, kan være en ubetydelig straff i praksis med en stjerneadvokat, hvilket er usannsynlig mtp hva han har avslørt og all oppmerksomheten han har fått blant ledere innen CIA og Kongressen. Derfor heller jeg mot at nye siktelser blir utformet hvis han eventuelt blir utlevert. Da er det 100 år her og 150 der. osv.
Tiltalen i Sverige som er bullshitt noe de fleste forstår ble henlagt i fjor eller i forfjor, men er nå tatt opp igjen i dag!

En trenger ikke være på innsiden i CIA eller det Svenske PST for å skjønne hvorfor.

Det ville vært utenkelig at USAs justisdepartement utvidet siktelsen mot Assange til punkter som kan gi dødstraff etter å ha "narret" uk til utlevering. Selv ikke under Trump oppfører man seg slik mot sin nærmeste allierte.

Tiltalen er mer forståelig nå når vi vet at han er mistenkt for å ha bidratt med selve hackejobben enn tidligere da de fleste trodde USA ville ta han for publiseringen. Akkurat det gav heller ikke veldig stor mening. Da burde de også arrestert og tiltalt ansvarlig redaktører i WP og Guardian etter Snowden lekkasjene.

Ikke Dødsstraff. Det ville vekke alt for stor harme, men en mer omfattende tiltale? helt åpenbart. Du tror ikke han slipper med "samfunnstjeneste?

"Du tror ikke han slipper med "samfunnstjeneste?"

Jeg blir ikke overrasket om han slipper fri. Det han kunne ha blitt dømt for, manipulere valget på vegne av fremmed statsmakt i 2016, blir han neppe tiltalt for under Barr.

Du tror at CIA frivillig mister ansikt, og slipper en som er blitt kalt Russisk spion og forræder? Ikke heng deg opp i formaliteter, Du trenger ikke tro på det, men det er mye skjult makt i USA. Verdens mektigste nasjon. Bare sjekk innledningen til Irak-krigen, men hvis noen tror de er tjent med å slippe ham fri, så slipper de han selvsagt fri.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTSvFjX--pA

Her kan det jo være noen bidrag til å kaste lys.
Svtplay.se , RAPPORT, hadde saken oppe på topplass i dag.
Beskyldningene om voldtekter på svenske kvinner, betraktes som konstruerte og iscenesatt.

Julian Assange will be given immunity by AG Barr in return for evidence and testimony that Hillary and the DNC murdered Seth Rich

Assange will never spend one day in prison

He holds the Trump card

That's why Trump was talking treason yesterday...he knew Assange was being extracted for the good guys


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D34jArzU0AAmZos?format=jpg&name=small

De ville bringe Assange i sikkerhet før helvete bryter løs når Mueller rapporten frigis.

Leste at ambassaden var luta lei både av Assange og katten hans. Er bekymret for katten. Noen som vet hvor katten er nå?

https://twitter.com/jamesrbuk/status/1116285679728832518?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1116285679728832518&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fedition.cnn.com%2F2019%2F04%2F11%2Feurope%2Fjulian-assange-cat-fate-gbr-intl-trnd%2Findex.html

https://www.rt.com/news/445009-assange-sends-embassy-cat-away/

Så vidt jeg husker denne "voldtektssaken" fra 2010 så deltok Assange på en konferanse i Sverige og i løpet av helgen traff han to damer han hadde sex med gjentatte ganger. Begge bekrefter at dette var frivillig. Hun ble sur for at Assange hadde penetrert henne uten kondom og kontaktet den andre. Sammen gikk de til politiet for å få dem til å tvinge Assange til å ta en HIV test.

Det kunne de ikke gjøre, men saken ble snappet opp av en påtaleadvokat som opprettet en voldtektssak. Dette ønsket ikke jentene og trakk sine anmeldelser, men påtaleadvokaten fortsatte saken alikevel. Assange ble arrestert og avhørt, men henla saken dagen etter. Kort tid etter (1-2 dager) ombestemte hun seg og fortsatte etterforskningen alikevel. Ble hun beordret av noen?

Alle som har fulgt med på svensk rettsvesen vet at saken aldri kunne ha ført til noen domfellelse. Kun 7 av 100 anmeldte voldtekter havner i retten. Julian Assange ble ikke engang anmeldt for voldtekt av de to damene. I 30% av de anmeldte sakene med kjent gjerningsmann blir ikke engang den mistenkte avhørt før saken henlegges.

At dette var sosialistene som nok engang brukte rettsvesenet som et politisk våpen er det vel liten tvil om. Hadde svenskene fått ham utlevert i 2010 er jeg lite i tvil om at han hadde blitt sendt rett til Obama. At det hadde brutt en mengde lover eller trosset FN ville de nok ikke tatt så tungt.

Takker så mye Merlot. Jeg var langt fra alene om å bekymre meg om Assanges katt. Som nå synes å være godt tatt vare på.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_(cat)
Skal se den parres med Larry...

Jeg står litt i spagat, kjøper meg tid og tenker meg om men jeg er bare lei og vil snakke om noe annet. Jeg stikker til en løs tråd okei.
Dassange who? Call the doctor. Who? Nei, Dr Who er bare eventyr.

«Manipulere valget»

Man må vel være dreven konspirasjonsteoretiker eller innbitt sosialist for å komme til den konklusjonen...

Er vel ikke noen grunn til å legge til en eller der 777?

De fleste sosialister er drevne konspirasjonsteoretikere, og Jabba er intet unntak. Er vel noen millioner skuffede sosialister som fikk sin konspirasjon om russian collution knust her om dagen. Alle de andre teoriene de til stadighet fremsetter, får seg et skudd for baugen etter tur nå. Dette bryr de seg lite om, men bare fortsetter med neste teori og talking points.

Når begynte CIA å kontrollere amerikansk rettsvesen?

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Polemiker

Jeg synes at det er merkelig at du elsker Assange men hater MSM media.

I Snowden saken var det Guardian og WP som publiserte lekkasjene.
I Chelsea Manning saken var det Wikileak, med samarbeidspartnere som New York Times, Guardian og der Spiegel
"On July 25, 2010, WikiLeaks and three media partners—The New York Times, The Guardian, and Der Spiegel—began publishing the 91,731 documents that, in their entirety, became known as the Afghan War Logs. (Around 77,000 of these had been published as of May 2012.) This was followed on October 22, 2010, by 391,832 classified military reports covering the period January 2004 to December 2009, which became known as the Iraq War Logs. Nicks writes that the publication of the former was a watershed moment, the "beginning of the information age exploding upon itself"

"Manning was also the source of the Guantanamo Bay files leak, obtained by WikiLeaks in 2010 and published by The New York Times on April 24, 2011"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning

Panama paper var et samarbeid mellom msm medier i mer enn 80 land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers

"Hannity Rallies to Assange’s Defense: WikiLeaks Has Better Track Record Than ‘Fake News Media’"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/hannity-rallies-to-assanges-defense-wikileaks-has-better-track-record-than-fake-news-media?ref=home

Hannity forsvarer sin tidligere fiende men også han "glemmer" at msm og ikke Fox news var samarbeidspartnere for Wikileaks/Snowden/panama papers.
Selvfølgelig glemmer han ikke. Det er kun teater for å beskytte kompisen sin i WH som forøvrig i går presterte å si at han vet ingenting om Wikileaks.

https://contemptor.com/2019/04/11/trump-has-convenient-case-of-amnesia-about-his-past-love-of-wikileaks-in-wake-of-assange-arrest/

"During a brief press gaggle in the Oval Office just before a meeting with South Korean president Moon Jae-in, Donald Trump was asked if he still loves WikiLeaks, as he said during his presidential campaign in 2016. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was arrested in London on Thursday morning on a charge of conspiring to hack into a U.S. government computer that contained classified information.

Trump responded that “I know nothing about WikiLeaks. That’s not my thing. I know nothing really about him, it’s not my deal in life.”

That’s funny, because NBC once counted 145 references Trump made to WikiLeaks before the 2016 election. And that was just in the last 12 days leading up to it."

Her står jeg:

The day America died.

47 years ago in American Pie, Don McLean talked about The Day The Music Died. Or of course the music didn’t really die, but at the same time it did. “The three men I admired most, the father, son and the holy ghost, they caught the last train for the coast, the day the music died.”

Back then you could still have claimed the country merely lost its innocence. And you could have said the same in 1861 or 1914 or 1941. Today, not to take anything away from music, or the song, something much bigger died. America itself died, not just its music or innocence. America didn’t just lose its innocence, it pled guilty.

No doubt most of you would proclaim that’s a gross exaggeration, and an insane hyperbole, but you would all be wrong, sorry. There’s no way back this time.

America, the United States, with all its initial prejudice and lethal screw-ups, was founded as a place where people could direct their own lives without having to fear any other party, let alone a government, that would stand in their way while they did it. And a big part of not having to fear one’s government is not having to fear that government purposely lying to its citizens. The Founding Fathers, for all their faults, got that right. And today erases all of that in one fell swoop.

That is what died today.

Or, you know, it may have died much earlier, and a thousand times before as well, but with the arrest in London of Julian Assange, an Australian citizen wanted by the US Deep State, a myriad of strands connecting, and connected to a bloated dying corpse came together. And now we know there is no salvation possible. Today made it all terminal. America is no more. Or it is no longer what they tell you it stands for, whichever comes first.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-11/day-america-died

And it’s not just America, mind you. ‘The UK is a serious country’, PM Theresa May said today when addressing Brexit. No it’s not, Theresa, it’s a banana republic hopelessly stuck in a spaghetti western and it no longer knows the rule of law. It sells people to the highest bidder in a meat market, be they Windrush, refugees from her Majesty’s wars in Libya, or just white and poor English, or Julian Assange.

The UK is a parody on a country, it’s a sordid piece of third rate slapstick. It kills people while trying to maintain the image of being a serious country. You know, whatever that is?! The British judge Assange faced today was bleeding mocking him, the arguably greatest journalist of this century and millennium. A serious country?

And where was opposition Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn when this all went on? Haven’t seen him, other then in the afternoon when he was ‘discussing’ Brexit details with May in Parliament on day 1021 since the Brexit referendum, while he should have been out in the street denouncing May and protecting Assange at the loudest voice there is.

Screw you, Jeremy, you’re a pathetic loser. No matter what else you do, there are times when you have to stand up and be counted. You were nowhere to be seen, you coward. Screw you again. And all of your family. A curse on y’all. You had a chance to be counted, and you whimped out so enormously only an elephant could whimp out more. Today was your day, and you were a no-show, again.

But don‘t you mind me, I’m not British and I’m not one of those ass-hat followers of you. I’m just someone calling you a coward. So, you know, your campaign team can keep polling and intervene as soon as they see too many ass-hats become concerned about Assange. Until then, who cares, it’s all in the numbers. It’s not as if you have any principles anyway. If you can screw up Brexit there’s no reason why you couldn’t screw up Assange’s situation as well.

As for the Donald, man, it’s just 6 days ago that I issued a well-meant warning to you, to tell you that those who are after Assange are the same people who are after you.

And now you’ve given those very people a huge stage to execute their anti-Assange and thereby their anti-Trump messages from. Mr. Trump, you’re helping Brennan and Clapper and Comey and their ilk persecute the only person who could ever stand up to them. And who did that better than you ever did. Because he’s so much smarter.

And where are all the media? Where are all the other governments? Where is the European Union? Where is Australia? Yes, Ecuador took away Assange’s citizenship too today, like that’s a piece of candy or something. Asylum, citizenship, they can be bought and sold whenever a bell tolls.

Why do we have international law anyway if nobody abides by any of it? You can’t just grant someone asylum, and then a citizenship, and then rescind it when you like on a rainy morning when your medication runs out or they’re on to you for blatant fraud, Lenin Moreno. Do that and all international law becomes null and void. Hereby.

Pardon me, I’ve just been, like hopefully many people are, so sad and angry and despondent today, all day. The entire world watched the music die today, and never realized it, and a man much smarter and braver and real than any of us is out there paying for our sins, and we have no media left to tell us an honest story about it, and George Orwell is laughing somewhere out there.

And I am still stupid enough to think that we can do better.

Sånn ca.

Artikkelforfatteren har tydligvis ikke fått med seg at USA ønsker å ta Assange for å delta i stjeling av dokumenter og ikke publiseringen.

The decision to prosecute WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange played out against the backdrop of President Donald Trump’s aggressive campaign to ferret out insiders leaking to the media.

First Amendment advocates are enraged by the indictment and say it shows media protections are in jeopardy. A former top national security official told The Daily Beast the charges shouldn’t have triggered those concerns but did say the decision to go after Assange followed an administration push to re-examine “what qualifies as media.”

The indictment covers alleged crimes that occurred nearly a decade ago and that the Obama Administration, after much debate, did not prosecute.

But Mary McCord, a career law-enforcement official who helmed the Justice Department’s National Security Division for the first four months of the Trump administration, said “there was renewed interest under the new administration to revisit issues of what qualifies as the media and to look back at the Assange case.”

“That’s not to say there was ever a lack of interest in Assange over the years, even under the previous administration,” McCord said. “There were evidentiary and policy issues that were at play previously, and probably continue to be at play—and reasonable minds can certainly differ about how decisions are made, both legal decisions in terms of statute, and policy decisions.”

McCord added that since the DOJ hasn’t charged Assange with publishing classified material—he was indicted for allegedly helping Chelsea Manning break a password to steal material from government computers—his case isn’t a window into the Trump administration’s view of press freedoms.

“This, to me, is no different than saying you don’t get a pass when you’re the media if you commit a bank robbery, you don’t get a pass when you’re in the media if you hack into computers or conspire to hack into computers,” she said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/decision-to-go-after-assange-came-during-trumps-war-on-leakers

Some press freedom advocates, however, said the indictment is troubling; Reporters Without Borders, the Freedom of the Press Foundation, and the ACLU all raised concerns about the move.

Assange is charged with conspiracy to commit computer intrusion, based on his alleged efforts in 2010 to help Manning obtain the classified material that he would later publish.

Following the first massive Wikileaks dump, Obama administration officials in various agencies worked to rectify the damage. Several foreign service officers who spoke to The Daily Beast said they were forced to comb through the documents to identify which documents could pose potential threats to informants.

“There was a general sense of worry. We worried that the leak would put lives in danger,” one former Obama administration official said. “We viewed it as a fire that had to be put out. We had to go through all the documents to identify any potential damage they could cause.”

Since that time, the U.S. has continued to gather intelligence on Assange and his relationship to the Russian government. While some agencies have pushed for the U.S. to go after Assange with vigor, others have cautioned that there was not enough evidence or that it was more important to gather counterintelligence information on Assange’s connection to Russia, according to former intelligence officials.

Det spiller ingen rolle hva de får tatt ham for, bare de får tatt ham.

Så du tror Trump's DoJ vil være agressive mot whistleblowers i motsetning tril Obama som benådet Chelsea Manning?

Tipper Assange slipper fri eller, om han blir utlevert til USA, at tiltalen blir frafalt. Blir et stort antiklimaks etter 7 år i helt unødvendig asyl.
Det er forøvrig ganske tydlig at DoJ trenger vitnemålet til Chelsea Manning for å bygge saken mot Assange om at han deltok i passord knekkingen.
Hun ble som kjent nylig kastet i fengsel pga at hun nektet å la seg forhøre om denne saken, noe jeg synes var merkelig da hun ble benådet av president Obama.

Jeg tenker at du neppe blir blandt de første, men at stadig flere fremover vil våkne opp og innse at staten og folket faktisk ER to vidt forskjellige ting med vidt forskjellige ønsker og mål.

Vi velger de som lager våre lover. Om vi er uenige i våre folkevalgtes disposisjoner velger vi nye representanter som lager nye lover. Hele tiden går det folk inn og ut av statlige arbeidsplasser som stort sett har som mål å utføre sine lovpålagte arbeidsoppgaver. At du føler at staten ikke representerer folket er fordi du har meninger som ikke er mainstream. Det ville ikke vært naturlig at landet var organisert slik du ønsker da de aller fleste ville vært i mot det.

Julian Assange is not a free-press hero. And he is long overdue for personal accountability.

AFTER SIX-PLUS years of asylum in the Ecuadoran Embassy in London, Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, was removed from that diplomatic facility Thursday by British police and jailed for up to 12 months for jumping bail back in August 2012. He may ultimately face courts in the United States or Sweden, as well. If these democracies handle it properly, Mr. Assange’s case could conclude as a victory for the rule of law, not the defeat for civil liberties of which his defenders mistakenly warn.

Contrary to much pro-WikiLeaks propaganda, Mr. Assange had no legitimate fears for his life, either at the hands of CIA assassins or, via extradition, the U.S. death penalty, when he fled to the embassy of what was then an anti-American government. Rather, he was avoiding transfer to Sweden pursuant to a seemingly credible sexual assault charge lodged against him in that country. He then proceeded to abuse the hospitality of his South American hosts, most egregiously by presiding over what an indictment by U.S. special counsel Robert S. Mueller III described as Russian intelligence’s use of WikiLeaks as a front for its interference in the U.S. election. Democratic Party documents stolen by the Russians made their way into the public domain under the WikiLeaks label. Ecuador’s new, more pragmatic president, Lenín Moreno, cited Mr. Assange’s more recent alleged involvement in the release of confidential Vatican documents, along with threats against the government in Quito, as reasons to oust him.

Mr. Assange is not a free-press hero. Yes, WikiLeaks acquired and published secret government documents, many of them newsworthy, as shown by their subsequent use in newspaper articles (including in The Post). Contrary to the norms of journalism, however, Mr. Assange sometimes obtained such records unethically — including, according to a separate federal indictment unsealed Thursday, by trying to help now-former U.S. Army soldier Chelsea Manning hack into a classified U.S. computer system.

Also unlike real journalists, WikiLeaks dumped material into the public domain without any effort independently to verify its factuality or give named individuals an opportunity to comment. Nor, needless to say, would a real journalist have cooperated with a plot by an authoritarian regime’s intelligence service to harm one U.S. presidential candidate and benefit another.

Even if it isn’t really about journalism, the Assange case may touch on genuine issues of free expression, as would any matter related to the dissemination of information, secret or otherwise. The Justice Department proposes to try Mr. Assange on a single count of conspiring (with Ms. Manning) to break into a U.S. computer system, which, on its face, does not criminalize the communication of the secrets thereby obtained. Having already given assurances to Ecuador that it will not extradite Mr. Assange to the United States on any charge (including, implicitly, espionage) that might carry capital punishment, Britain should not fear that sending him for trial on that hacking count would endanger freedom of the press.

To the contrary, Mr. Assange’s transfer to U.S. custody, followed possibly by additional Russia-related charges or his conversion into a cooperating witness, could be the key to learning more about Russian intelligence’s efforts to undermine democracy in the West. Certainly he is long overdue for personal accountability.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/julian-assange-is-not-a-free-press-hero-and-he-is-long-overdue-for-personal-accountability/2019/04/11/90f901ba-5c86-11e9-842d-7d3ed7eb3957_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b350b459dadc