Største aksjonær i IDEX i kjempetrøbbel

H-Capital
IDEX 04.06.2019 kl 10:59 43793

STORFOND STANSER INNLØSING: Woodford stanser nå innløsninger fra sitt drøye NOK 40 milliarder store aksjefond etter svake resultater og innløsninger over flere år. En frys på innløsning ble innført når en større aktør ba om tilbakebetaling av nærmere NOK 2,7 milliarder. Woodford eier nærmere 25 prosent av Thin Film som er på kapitaljakt og 28 prosent av Idex – tunge posisjoner som det synes svært vanskelig å komme seg ut av med tanke på likviditeten. Idex steg raskt 16 prosent på fredag – siste noteringsdag i mai – på en måte som fikk flere aktører inne på Xtrainvestor til å spekulere i en «pump» for at noen ville vise bedre forvaltningsresultater for måneden. Kursen falt da også kraftig tilbake på mandag. Her finner du vår Idex-kanal https://www.xtrainvestor.com/channel/idex

IDEX vil nok straks reprises mot peers... Da snakker vi et fall på 85% til 43øre
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Slettet bruker
26.09.2019 kl 21:44 4670

Hvilket fond er mest kritisk for Idex
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H-Capital
27.09.2019 kl 08:02 4596

WEIF eier 19,99% av IDEX. - dette fondet er sperret for uttak til desember(guiding p.t) og vil sannsynligvis få ny forvalter..

WPCT eier 8,37% av IDEX - dette er open ended fund, og har falt nesten 50% på børs siden mai. Markedet priser fondet til ca 50% rabatt av hva Woodford mener er NAV.

Det er en fair sjanse for at WF skal ut med begge postene her. Så spørs det bare når og hvor.
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H-Capital
27.09.2019 kl 15:40 4519

Ny low for aksjen idag siden 2014. Nå åpnes portene mot 1,00 og 50 øre i mitt hode..
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nima
27.09.2019 kl 15:48 4508

Å putte penger i IDEX er det samme som å betale søppelavgift, bort blir alt, bare søppeldunken står igjen
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Slettet bruker
28.09.2019 kl 21:34 4380

Et utdrag fra:
28.09.2019:   https://www.ft.com/content/0da98d40-e12c-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc

Woodford on the brink of exit as trust results loom
Growing chorus to sack Patient Capital manager after latest writedowns


«Neil Woodford’s role as manager of the investment trust that bears his name looks ever more perilous following a spate of damaging writedowns and simmering tensions between Britain’s best-known stockpicker and the fund’s independent board.

Woodford Patient Capital Trust, which was the UK’s most successful listed fund launch when it opened five years ago, reports half-year results on Monday.

Its share price has halved this year, while its net asset value has dropped more than 13 per cent in the past few weeks after it was forced to mark down the value of several of its biggest holdings.

“I have been shocked by what the trust has recently announced,” said Ian Hunter, a professional investor and long-term shareholder in the fund. “Neil Woodford is not a fit and proper person to run it.”

The trust is also heavily in debt to US bank Northern Trust, and Mr Woodford was forced to accept new terms this month that allowed the Chicago lender to have a final say on any new investments he makes.

Overhanging the trust’s day-to-day problems is a more existential crisis: the board has lost confidence in Mr Woodford’s ability to run the portfolio and is actively courting new managers to replace him.

“The relationship between Woodford and the board is clearly ruptured — a change in manager is certainly likely,” said Alan Brierley, an analyst at Investec Securities who covers the trust.

At the centre of the dispute between Mr Woodford and the board is his decision to dump £1m of his personal shares in the trust in July, then not informing the board of the sale for another three weeks.

The board responded by announcing to the market that it had held talks with rival investment managers about displacing Mr Woodford, a disclosure it was not required to make. The FT reported in June that the board had already held discussions with its broker Winterflood Securities about terminating Mr Woodford’s contract.

“The share sales were outrageous on so many levels,” said a fund industry veteran who has close connections to the trust. “The fact that he thought it was OK to sell his stake without telling the board is absolutely shocking.”

Investors will be looking for more information from the WPCT board on Monday over its agreement with Northern Trust regarding a £150m overdraft facility. The board said in June that after consulting with concerned shareholders, it had agreed with Mr Woodford that he would gradually reduce the trust’s borrowing.

But the overdraft agreement with Northern Trust expires on January 16, giving the manager less than four months to pay back the debt or renegotiate the facility. Whether or not Mr Woodford will still be in place by that deadline is far from clear.

“Neil Woodford has destroyed a lot of value in the fund and the board has allowed him to do so,” said Mr Hunter. “Therefore he and the board must go.”»
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Slettet bruker
28.09.2019 kl 21:38 4372

Står det virkelig så dårlig til i IDEX?
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Slettet bruker
01.10.2019 kl 01:24 4204

Et utdrag fra:
30.09.2019:   https://www.ft.com/content/3e0320ba-e37e-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc

Neil Woodford is now a Patient fund manager in name only
Investment trust is leaving him little to do but sell holdings and repay debt


«Neil Woodford used to be the biggest name in fund management. Now he seems to be a fund manager in name only. On Monday the board of Woodford Patient Capital Trust talked about the “decisive and proactive measures” it had taken with the aim of “protecting shareholders” from Mr Woodford’s investment choices — and said it “remains in dialogue with other potential managers”. It was tantamount to having a security guard stand over him while his successor measured up for new curtains.

Despite that less than ringing endorsement, amid the continuing suspension of the separate Woodford Equity Income Fund following an investor exodus, the manager tried to look on the bright side. “While shareholders can be forgiven for thinking there are no positives,” he said, absolving those who felt a sharp fall in net asset value was a negative, “I continue to believe that the majority of the businesses we have invested in are making good progress.” However, the board doesn’t want him to progress anything further, having taken control of almost all decisions.

Valuation of the unlisted holdings has been completely reassessed “following [a] mandate from the board”, with the results reviewed by accountants Grant Thornton.

Approval of investment decisions now lies with board members who are “more active, hands-on and fully engaged”, in the words of one insider — and, unlike chairman Susan Searle, more obviously independent of the manager, following the hiring of a third non-executive director with no past connection to Mr Woodford. Approval of any new investments has already been given to the trust’s lender, Northern Trust, in return for flexibility over a £150m borrowing facility.

“Liquidity management” also seems to reside with the board, which said it was “working closely with its advisers” to consider raising a limit on unquoted investments beyond 80 per cent — it now stands at 79 per cent as quoted assets have lost value, been sold down, or been delisted in the Channel Islands.

Deleveraging has been forced on the manager by the board, as well, to avoid breaching another limit: borrowing no more than 20 per cent of NAV, which today’s debt of £111m could represent if valuations fall again. Renewing that borrowing facility by January is now the board’s job — and priority.

That leaves Mr Woodford with nothing to do but sell more holdings, repay the bank and clear out his desk for one of those new “potential managers”. It is arguably not the best use of his talents. On the same day that the Patient Capital Trust lost its patience with him, the UK government announced a £200m cash injection alongside £400m of private investment into precisely the type of unquoted science companies that Mr Woodford seeks to back. He may yet continue to do so, but not at WPCT. Judging by the board’s words, and Mr Woodford’s deeds — he sold a £1m stake but didn’t tell directors for three weeks — the curtain is coming down.»


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Anta, helt hypotetisk, at WPCT styret, enten selv, eller WPCTs nye forvalter, bestemmer seg for å selge WPCTs 50 millioner IDEX aksjer i markedet. Med vanlig IDEX volum, vil et slikt salg ta godt over ett år, og mest sannsynlig senke kursen, med mindre det skjer noe historisk reellt positivt i IDEX som fører til at CBE kan skimtes i det fjerne.

Hvis WPCT bestemmer seg for å selge WPCTs IDEX aksjer, hva gjør da Woodford med WEIFs IDEX aksjer?
Ingen ting, sitter rolig og satser på at IDEX ikke går konk og lykkes med smartkort, slik at kursen går opp - eller tar lærdom av feilene fra THIN, og selger WEIFs IDEX aksjer?

EDIT:
I andre FT artikler står det at WPCT styret i lengre tid har søkt etter en ny forvalter av WPCT. Hvis ingen annen forvalter vil ta over det skakkjørte fondet, hva gjør WPCT styret da?  Forvalter det selv, eller avvikler/likviderer fondet?

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H-Capital
01.10.2019 kl 07:42 4171

Spennende Reserven!

Hva er ditt best guess på når aksjene kommer for salg i markedet?
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Møyfrid
01.10.2019 kl 07:54 4284

Ja den som hadde visst det. En god 90% på shorten om det skjer...
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H-Capital
02.10.2019 kl 17:05 4195

Fra Woodford patient capital 30. september 2019:

The Company also participated in a $25m placing in Idex, which is close to commercialising its fingerprint sensor technology in the global payment cards market.

Dette var emisjonen i januar som skulle ta IDEX til profitabilitet.

Forøvrig interessant at IDEX posten blir vurdert til GAV(gross asset value) og ikke NAV(net asset value) som er langt lavere.
https://static.woodfordfunds.net/prd/2019/09/WPCT_HY19.pdf
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Slettet bruker
07.10.2019 kl 16:19 4036

Et utdrag fra:
06.10.2019:   https://www.ft.com/content/3e0320ba-e37e-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc

Neil Woodford’s stricken fund has tumbled 20% in value since May
Equity Income vehicle shrinks to £2.9bn as series of holdings slide in value


«Neil Woodford’s stricken Equity Income fund has shrunk 20 per cent in four months as more than a dozen holdings have tumbled in value, inflicting further harm on the hundreds of thousands of investors trapped in the vehicle since its June suspension.

The fund dropped to £2.93bn last week, meaning the UK’s best known stockpicker has lost three-quarters of the assets he managed at the height of his business two years ago. The fund is expected to suffer an investor exodus if and when it reopens, raising doubts about the future of the business.

“There may be some investors that decide to ride out any volatility but whether there will be enough assets left after the reopening for the company to continue as a going concern remains to be seen,” said Peter Brunt, associate director for equity strategies at Morningstar, the data provider.

Equity Income has lost a fifth of its value since May 31, the last day investors were able to withdraw their money before the fund was suspended. The fund was frozen after being hit by a wave of redemption requests from worried investors.

Equity Income was once one of the UK’s largest funds, reaching £10.2bn of assets and attracting hundreds of thousands of investors — almost 300,000 of whom did so through the popular Hargreaves Lansdown fund supermarket.

Several of Equity Income’s biggest holdings, including Burford Capital, Provident Financial, Kier Group, Amigo Holdings, Allied Minds and IP Group, have fallen steeply since the end of May.

Mr Woodford’s controversial decision to transfer Equity Income’s holdings in five unlisted stocks into its sister fund, the listed Woodford Patient Capital investment trust, in a complex shares-for-assets swap in March has also proved calamitous. Shares in Patient Capital are down 46 per cent since the end of May.

Investors face the prospect of further devaluations as Mr Woodford is forced to sell the fund’s remaining unlisted assets at a discount. The portfolio has already suffered from large writedowns of unquoted holdings, including Benevolent AI, Ombu and Industrial Heat.

“Woodford has exited a number of his unquoted positions entirely already. For those that remain, we believe it is likely that they will be sold at a discount,” added Mr Brunt.

Mr Woodford has reinvested proceeds from sales of unquoted holdings into FTSE 100 companies, including Royal Bank of Scotland, Lloyds, British American Tobacco, International Airlines Group and Legal & General.

Investors in Mr Woodford’s only open fund, Income Focus, are nursing paper losses of 16 per cent since June. The size of the fund has halved in that time.

Combining the £2.93bn Equity Income fund, the £590m Patient Capital investment trust and the £246m Income Focus fund, Mr Woodford now oversees £3.77bn. That represents a 75 per cent fall from his company’s all-time high of £15bn two years ago.»

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Møyfrid
07.10.2019 kl 16:25 4026

Ja, da hadde faktisk menigheten gjort det bittelitt bedre om de hadde satt pengene direkte i fondet, enn verdenslederen alene.
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 00:14 3880

Et utdrag fra:
15.10.2019:   https://www.ft.com/content/c9bd2a60-ef13-11e9-bfa4-b25f11f42901

Neil Woodford’s empire implodes as he quits last two funds
UK’s best-known stockpicker takes ‘highly painful decision’ after being fired from flagship


«Neil Woodford’s investment empire imploded on Tuesday as the UK’s best-known fund manager was fired from his flagship fund and he walked away from his remaining two investment vehicles.

His dismissal was followed by the transfer of £3bn of assets out of the flagship Woodford Equity Income Fund by its administrator, which also abandoned an attempt to relaunch the frozen investment vehicle. The fund will now be liquidated.

In an initially angry response, Mr Woodford said the decision by the administrator, Link Fund Solutions, was “one I cannot accept, nor believe is in the long-term interests [of investors]”.

But last night Mr Woodford threw in the towel, resigning from the Woodford Patient Capital Trust and his Income Focus Fund, in effect ending three decades of managing outside money.

Problems at The Equity Income Fund stemmed from its exposure to stocks that cannot easily be bought or sold. Link had tried to reposition the fund with a view to reopening it in December but decided that not enough progress had been made to allow it.

BlackRock has been mandated to sell liquid holdings and some illiquid investments, accounting for roughly two-thirds of the £3bn in assets, while PJT will attempt to sell the private and illiquid assets.

The hundreds of thousands of investors trapped in the fund are likely to incur significant losses and any return of capital is not expected until next year.»


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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 14:54 3789

Et utdrag fra:
16.10.2019:   https://www.ft.com/content/8d67db96-eff9-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195

Second Woodford fund frozen after stockpicker’s resignation
Administrator Link Fund Solutions suspends £252m income focus fund


«A second fund run by Neil Woodford has been suspended following the investment manager’s dramatic decision to close his business last night.

The £252m Income Focus fund has been frozen by its administrator, Link Fund Solutions, after Mr Woodford announced his intention to resign as manager. Link had previously taken the decision to suspend Mr Woodford’s flagship Equity Income fund in June.

Mr Woodford announced he was resigning from income focus and his investment trust, Patient Capital, after Link fired him from managing equity income on Monday.

“LFS expects that the redemptions in the [income focus] fund will reach a level whereby it may no longer be able to continue to meet redemption requests without prejudicing the interests of both remaining and redeeming investors,” Link said on Wednesday.

It added it would consider whether to appoint a new manager for the fund, merge it with another vehicle or wind it down.»


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Ikke sikker, men så vidt jeg vet er Woodford Income Focus Fund (WIFF) ikke IDEX aksjonær.
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 15:02 3781

Tror heller ikke Income Focus Fund er i Idex, eller kanskje det fondet også hadde en liten del. I thin hadde Income Focus Fond 5 mill aksjer før nedsalget begynte og figurerte derfor ikke på topp 30.
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H-Capital
16.10.2019 kl 15:06 3774

Equity eier 19,99% og Patient capital eier 8,36%
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 15:14 3769

Antar at du har tilgang til hele aksjonærlisten, minst topp-500?
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 15:16 3765

Jeg har topp 10 000 om noen er interessert? :)
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H-Capital
16.10.2019 kl 15:26 3747

Kan det være "link" som har tatt over aksjene midlertidig?
"“This was Link’s decision" - https://www.reuters.com/article/woodford-funds-closure/neil-woodford-says-cannot-accept-closure-of-his-flagship-fund-idUSL5N2701FD?fbclid=IwAR1Y8dwuxbQNQKYqLM2bKNVNXUy2OApcy1mkOUp1F2xXAhIVwXZOLBPjGSc

Men hvem er de for Woodford? Er det regnskap og/eller complience?

Det som taler imot er at de ikke har tatt over WPCT aksjene(8,36%), enda.. samt at Blackrock har fått oppdrag å selge WEIF aksjene(19,99%).
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 15:29 3741

Ser deg (og bløffen din).

Send en kopi til e-post adressen:  idex.topp-10000@reserven.eu
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 15:31 3759

Link Fund Solutions kan du sammenligne med et styre i et AS/ASA.
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H-Capital
16.10.2019 kl 15:39 3757

Okok..
de skriver dette:
2. I thought the suspension was temporary, why have LFS now decided to windup the Fund?
Whilst progress has been made in relation to repositioning the Fund’s assets
during the period of suspension, unfortunately this has not been sufficient to keep
the Fund on track to re-open in December. Despite the progress made, it is
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uncertain when this repositioning would be fully achieved and LFS has therefore
concluded that it is in the best interests of investors for the Fund to be wound up
on the basis of an ‘orderly realisation’ of the Fund’s assets.
This will allow the return of money through interim payments to investors more
quickly than if the Fund had remained suspended for a longer period of time.
LFS will now take the necessary steps to request formal permission from the
FCA to take this action, and it is expected that the winding-up of the Fund will
commence in January 2020. It is not possible to commence the winding-up any
earlier due to the need for three months’ notice to be given to investors under the
applicable European Directive implemented by FCA rules.

Spessielt de siste setningene her som er kritisk for når man kan forvente salg.
Spørsmålet står på hva de mener med winding up. Om det betyr at investorene får ut pengene sine, eller om det betyr salg av assets.
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H-Capital
16.10.2019 kl 15:41 3764

5. Why has BlackRock been appointed?
We have appointed BlackRock Advisors (UK) Limited (“BlackRock”) as transition
manager of a portfolio of the Fund’s listed assets in preparation for the winding
up of the Fund. BlackRock will seek to sell the assets in that portfolio and use
the proceeds to purchase money market funds and FTSE 100 index instruments.
This process will enable us to return part of investors’ cash as soon as possible
once the Fund begins the winding up process.
We believe that BlackRock is well placed to carry out this role due to its trading
and capital markets expertise and experience. We believe that this will achieve a
better outcome for investors.

To siste utdrag fra: https://equityincome.linkfundsolutions.co.uk/questions-and-answers/

Da må det nesten være blackrock som tok over
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Sente
16.10.2019 kl 15:45 3755

Spørsmål 9 dekker vel hva som skal skje med fondet ganske godt:
9. How will the Fund be managed
The Fund’s assets have been split into two parts, one comprised of listed assets (“Portfolio A”) and one comprised of the unlisted and certain highly illiquid listed assets (“Portfolio B”)

BlackRock will seek to sell the assets in Portfolio A and use the proceeds to purchase money market funds and FTSE 100 index instruments. This process will enable us to return part of investors’ cash as soon as possible once the Fund begins the winding up process.

During the period of the suspension LFS appointed PJT Partners (UK) Limited (“Park Hill”) as a specialist broker to assist us in selling the assets in Portfolio B. Park Hill will continue in this role.

Idex havner nok i B, så jeg tipper ekspertene i PJT vil forsøke å selge Idex av børsen. Da blir et vanskelig for Idex å finne investorer for en potensiell emisjon.
Merk også at det ønskes ikke et "Fire Sale" altså dumping av aksjene over børs som gruser kursen.
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Sente
16.10.2019 kl 15:49 3742

Ellers skjønner jeg ikke helt hvorfor markedet tolker så dette positivt. Woodford har vært en god investor for Idex og nå som han er sparket skulle jeg tro det blir mer usikkerhet rundt disse aksjene, ikke mindre?
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 16:08 3710

Min interpretasjon av winding-up her er "avvikle", dvs hele prosessen med først å selge fondets aktiva, så dele ut penger til andelseierne, og så avslutte med evt formelle papirkrav.

Bare å vente på børsmelding om hvem som har overtatt aksjene til Woodford. Børsmeldingen sier Fund Manager. Ser ikke LFS som en Fund Manager.

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"It is not possible to commence the winding-up any earlier due to the need for three months’ notice to be given to investors under the applicable European Directive implemented by FCA rules." er interessant.

Skrev DN allerede i går, men jeg trodde dem ikke:
https://investor.dn.no/#!/Oversikt/Direkte/41806
"Nedsalget begynner i januar 2020."

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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 16:13 3699

Nye toner fra Sente?
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H-Capital
16.10.2019 kl 16:13 3711

Jeg vil tro IDEX havner under blackrock(uten at det spiller noen rolle) pga den regnes som likvid, og small-/mid-cap.

De ønsker naturligvis ikke noe firesale, men de må enten selge hele posten på samme tidspunkt, eller selge i markedet. Har sett i andre aksjer at det gjerne krysses større poster(kanskje 10% WF posten) når det nærmer seg tomt.

Kjekt å få balanserte innspill fra deg Sente! Du virker dyktig.
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H-Capital
16.10.2019 kl 16:16 3706

Men de solgte thinfilm mye tidligere. Tror det er utbetaling til investorer det snakkes om. gir ikke mening at de skal ha sperrefrist på salg av aksjer.
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 16:19 3697

Ja, flott med balanserte innlegg. Flere kunne lære av det. Dumt de synes å ha en agenda bak...
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IFA
16.10.2019 kl 16:34 3660

Det greieste er at dagens ledelse i Idex Biometric får drive selskapets virksomhet i egen regi med de nødvendige fullmakter fra selskapets aksjonærer - uten råd fra en "ulveflokk" av shortere eller aksjonærer i konkurrerende selskaper som hisser seg opp i årevis på nivåer som skader folkehelsa - og statistikken for levealder i "Vårt lille land".
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H-Capital
16.10.2019 kl 16:35 3665

Vi kan vertfall bekrefte at noen i dag brøt verdipapirloven §4-3, punkt (6):

(6) Melding etter denne paragraf skal gis straks etter at avtale om erverv eller avhendelse er inngått, eller vedkommende blir kjent med eller burde ha blitt kjent med annen omstendighet som fører til at vedkommende når, passerer eller faller under en terskel i første ledd.
https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/2007-06-29-75/KAPITTEL_2-2#%C2%A74-3

Flagging for erverv skulle skjedd samtidig som WF flagget ned.
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 16:36 3673

IFA: jeg ler høyt... hehe. Morsomt.
Thumbs up.
Sluttet opp nær 14%. Kan bli en kalddusj i morgen, eller en skikkelig skvis om du sitter short. Kommer melding i kveld eller i morgen tidlig før åpning.
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 16:37 3672

H-Capital: Straks i denne sammenheng er samme dag eller før børsåpning neste dag. Og det er kjøpers ansvar, ikke selskapet.
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H-Capital
16.10.2019 kl 16:45 3660

"Straks etter" tolker jeg i dagens verden med umiddelbar informasjonsflyt som virkelig straks etter... altså få minutter.
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Sente
16.10.2019 kl 16:55 3648

De vet kanskje ikke selv helt hvor aksjene har havnet? Må ikke Idex få beskjed fra den nye "eieren" om dette?
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 17:04 3628

Sente: nettopp. Jeg har sittet i en rekke børsnoterte selskaper og kan litt om dette, er ikke jussekspert.
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Slettet bruker
16.10.2019 kl 17:20 3604

 
H-Capital, i følge e-post komm med Oslo Børs er STRAKS = "senest innen børsåpning dagen etter".
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Legg merke til at jeg sendte e-posten til Finanstilsynet, med KOPI til OSE, fikk UMIDDELBART en kvittering fra Finanstilsynet, men at OSE svarte i løpet av 61 minutter.

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På denne e-posten fikk jeg også umiddelbart en kvittering fra Finanstilsynet, men så langt intet svar fra hverken Finanstilsynet eller OSE:
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16.10.2019 kl 17:33 3593

Som sagt i annen tråd, senest før børsåpning dagen etter. Det her begynner å ligne en nervøs investor. Når du først nå kommer med spørsmål om mulig markedsmanipulering gjennom å kjøpe - et betydelig antall aksjer - men over tid. I morgen blir det nok et binært utfall. Enten veldig mye opp, eller ned. Tviler på noe midt i mellom.
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