GOGL November 2

Bassefix
GOGL 25.11.2017 kl 16:56 23725

Chinese Iron Ore Imports: Holding Strong
in Dry Bulk Market,International Shipping News 25/11/2017


Chinese seaborne iron ore imports have grown robustly in the year to date, and are currently projected to reach 1,074mt in full year 2017, accounting for more than 70% of global seaborne iron ore imports and around a third of the expected growth in total seaborne dry bulk trade this year. What factors have driven the firm expansion in China’s seaborne iron ore imports in 2017 so far?
As Hard As Iron
After a period of slower growth in Chinese seaborne iron ore imports in 2015, expansion picked up in 2016 and imports have continued to grow firmly so far this year, rising 7% y-o-y to 804mt in the first nine months of 2017. This growth has continued to be principally driven by exports from Australia and Brazil, which have accounted for more than 75% of China’s import growth in the year to date between them, a similar proportion to last year. However, a number of other suppliers have also increased exports to China, with China’s imports from India more than doubling in the year to date and imports from Iran and Sierra Leone growing by more than 35%.
Striking While The Iron Is Hot
The overall growth in Chinese iron ore imports has partly been supported by a c.3-4% increase in China’s steel consumption in 2017, whilst supply-side reform in China’s steel industry has also played a major role. The Chinese government, aiming to improve profitability in the steel sector and reduce air pollution, reportedly shut down more than 100mtpa of ‘illegal’ induction furnace steel capacity in 1H 2017. As a result, and against a backdrop of improved demand, steel prices rose firmly and the country’s major steel plants have subsequently ramped up production to take advantage. Official data, which does not include ‘illegal’ capacity, shows a 6% y-o-y increase in China’s steel production so far this year, although underlying steel production growth is likely to have been more modest, at around 3% when the closure of ‘illegal’ capacity is taken into account. As China’s ‘illegal’ induction furnaces typically consumed relatively low grade domestic iron ore and scrap, whilst the major steel plants generally use higher grade imported iron ore, China’s reliance on imports is likely to have increased further this year, having reached a reported 87% in 2016.
Acid Test?
However, growth in Chinese iron ore imports could slow somewhat towards the end of the year as a result of planned steel production cuts, although the extent of such an impact is uncertain. Government policies to reduce air pollution are expected to cut steel production by up to 50% during the winter months in a number of cities including Tangshan, China’s largest steel producing city. There are a range of scenarios, with the general consensus suggesting a slight decline in production in the period between November and March, although some reports suggest a y-o-y decline of as much as 8%.
So, while there is uncertainty over the impact of steel production cuts over the winter, China’s seaborne iron ore imports still look set to have expanded robustly in full year 2017. Overall, it seems that China’s supply-side reform in the steel industry has been a key driver of firm growth in global seaborne dry bulk trade this year.
Source: Clarkson Research
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Slettet bruker
30.11.2017 kl 11:29 8441

Kbkirsti - har kjøpt fra 65.2 i dag, og har nå tatt noen jafs også av 66 for å "hjelpe oss igjennom" :-)
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Kbkristi
30.11.2017 kl 11:35 8410

Ja, dette er som "BLACK THURSDAY". Verdiene steg med kr 1,80 på tirsdag og ytterligere 90 øre i går.
Om en halvtime får vi svaret for idag.
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Kbkristi
30.11.2017 kl 11:39 8402

For hver $ 1000 i rateøkning øker verdien i Gogl med kr 1,80. Husk det jenter og gutter! Om noen tuller med dere, så er det kronasjen som teller!
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Kbkristi
30.11.2017 kl 11:43 8466

Råbra Sector. Tull dem ikke bort på en dårlig trade no da. Om 2 år blir vi med til Bermuda på møte :)
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Sa2ri
30.11.2017 kl 12:03 8346

BULK:BALTIC CAPESIZE 4TC +3,9% TIL USD 25.481/DAG
Oslo (TDN Direkt): Baltic capesize 4TC stiger 3,9 prosent til 25.481 dollar pr dag, melder Bloomberg News torsdag.

Baltic capesize 4TC rapporteres til en fast differanse som er 1.064 dollar lavere enn den nyere Baltic capesize 5TC-indeksen, som inngår i Baltic Dry-indeksen.

HH, finans@tdn.no
TDN Finans, +47 21 95 60 70
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Kbkristi
30.11.2017 kl 12:25 8266

Om den generelle børsen begynner nedoverbakke, så selger folk. Da er de på utkikk etter aksjer som er underpriset "GULL".
OG DER ER VI1
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Sa2ri
30.11.2017 kl 12:42 8239

Capesize FFA Commentary:
New highs were posted again on the indices and paper. Headline fixtures like C3 at $20 and C5 at $9.60 kept rates pushing late into the afternoon session. With the last day of Nov pricing yesterday there’s plenty of room for the discount from spot to catch up
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Sa2ri
30.11.2017 kl 12:46 8225

Tar like greit med denne her også som kom på Twiter akkurat nå:

FFA: Capes flying again with Nov settling $22,385 and Dec still trading 2k discount to spot ($26545). PMX and SMX both very firm with index expected around +500, good volume throughout.
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Bassefix
30.11.2017 kl 13:01 8191

Dry Bulk FFA: Capesize Market on New Heighs
in Dry Bulk Market,International Shipping News 30/11/2017


Capesize FFA Commentary:
New highs were posted again on the indices and paper. Headline fixtures like C3 at $20 and C5 at $9.60 kept rates pushing late into the afternoon session. With the last day of Nov pricing yesterday there’s plenty of room for the discount from spot to catch up.
Panamax FFA Commentary:
We opened well bid from the start yesterday morning on Panamax paper with buyers willing the previous days highs. Despite some initial resistance we saw Dec and Jan push up to $12250 and $11100 highs respectively maintaining a decent carry as both basins continue to gather momentum. With Capes seeing a late surge we saw sellers thin out as buyers looked to repeat last done at the close.
Supramax FFA Commentary:
Supramax paper witnessed more support form the bid side of the curve but we continued to trade in the current ranges. The Dec was trading $10900-$11,000, and Q1 throughout the day at $9750. The Calendar 18 finally broke the 10k resistance barrier but then was offered back over.
Handysize FFA Commentary:
Quiet day on handy paper with no reported trading.
Full Report
Source: Freight Investor Services (FIS)
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jama
30.11.2017 kl 14:07 8085

Ja, ja. Dere skriver om hvor rosenrødt alt er i Capseize og gogl spesielt. Men dessverre, dess bedre rater og fremtidsutsikter dess mer faller kursen. Forstå det den som kan.
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1045
30.11.2017 kl 15:56 7989

Det er noe eg lurer på den 5/6 2017 stå Capsizen i 9837 og den 29/11 hadde den steget til 25595 dette er en økning på 160 % ,samtidig steg GOGLen fra 46,20 til 64,75 dette er kun 40 %, er dette en naturlig forskjell i kurs utviklingen. Eg bare spørr?
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really
30.11.2017 kl 16:14 7987

Det skyldes sikkert at kostnadene øker mer enn ratene øker ;-) . Eller kanskje det finnes en mer rasjonell forklaring. Som at aksjekurser kortsiktig kun styres av psykologi.
Eller som John M. Keynes så presist uttrykte det etter å ha konket på aksjer, Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

Men han sa også The long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead.” Så kanskje vi må tilpasse oss hva et kortsiktig marked mener av og til..
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Nonnen-42
30.11.2017 kl 16:59 7866

Det gikk 570K aksjer i sluttauksjonen.
Dette måtte vel være short-inndekning?
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KJEPET
30.11.2017 kl 17:18 7838

Tipper det er noen godt fornøyde shortere som gnir seg godt i hendene. De brukte dagen godt på å holde kursen nede og slo til i sluttauksjonen. Pent gjort.

De som solgte i dag på 65.- tallet må ha gått tomt for batteri på kalkulatoren. Absolutt alle indikatorer peker på oppgang nå.

68,14.- NOK i US nå ($8,21). Nå begynner moroa:-)
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Shippingballs
30.11.2017 kl 17:19 7882

Og det ser ut som det var lurt når man ser handelen i US nå. Kommer bruddet opp nå?
Det var et bullish break på mandag ifølge Yahoo, men så er det noe som heter "wait for the pullback", som vi fikk på tirsdag og onsdag. Og nå er alt klart for oppgangen vi har ventet på?
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oddrane
30.11.2017 kl 17:21 7866

Brenner under føttene på shorterne nå!
Gogl tar av over dammen nå.
Vi tålmodige kan glede oss til imorgen.
Wolf derimot hm hm.
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Sa2ri
30.11.2017 kl 17:26 7836

Ser ut til at USA mener det er på tide å kjøpe litt GOGL. Kurs $8,20 i skrivende stund (ca. NOK 68,-). Det blir spennende å se hva den slutter på i kveld, men holder dette utover kvelden er mitt tips at vi bryter motstanden på 67,70 i morgen tidlig med et smell.
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Slettet bruker
30.11.2017 kl 17:49 7777

Herlig - nu kør vi! :-)

Helt utrolig og uforståelig forøvrig etter q3 presentasjonen som overgikk de flestes forventninger/selskapet er back in black + ikke minst ratene som stuper oppover at GOGL fortsatt handles under 70.......
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KJEPET
30.11.2017 kl 18:21 7726

Dere får kaste dere på salgsknappen i morgen også slik at dere blir sittende igjen med postkassene fulle av skjegg :-)

Denne kom nylig på Twitter.
FFA: Capes continue to power ahead with Dec $24600 and mood spilling over into Q1, jumping nearly 10% on the day PMX seeing firmer numbers in Atlantic so expecting another big index tomorrow.
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Shippingballs
30.11.2017 kl 18:41 7733

Med dagens utvikling i US så er kanskje 60-tallet historie f.o.m. mandag?
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paals
30.11.2017 kl 19:01 5914

Den eneste som virkelig tjener på gogl. Er longs, han skrev på Jin tråden på gamle forum at han shortet gogl på 67 den 29.11. Innertier som vanlig på den karen
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Slettet bruker
30.11.2017 kl 19:18 5825

Kjepet - da går ratene videre opp 3-4% i morgen :-)
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Sa2ri
30.11.2017 kl 19:29 5839

Tror kanskje vi skal mer enn 3-4% opp i morgen basert på dette: ".......jumping nearly 10% on the day."
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Slettet bruker
30.11.2017 kl 19:36 5796

:-)
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daffe
30.11.2017 kl 19:43 5828

Hva synes dere om denne?


THIRD QUARTER 2017 HIGHLIGHTS
The Company's (Songa Bulk ASA with subsidiaries) net result in Q3 2017 increased compared to Q2 2017 as the Company took delivery of four vessels in the current quarter and vessels were chartered out on higher time charter (TC) rates. The highlights below are a comparative summary of Q3 2017 versus Q2 2017.

- EBITDA was $2.5 million in Q3 2017, compared to $0.8 million in Q2 2017.
- Average time charter equivalent (TCE1) in Q3 2017 was $9 069 per day, compared to $8 043 per day in
Q2 2017.
- Total time charter equivalent earnings1 were $8.1 million in Q3 2017, up from $4.9 million in Q2 2017.
- Net loss was $0.7 million ($0.020 per share) in Q3 2017, compared to a net loss of $0.1 million ($0.003 per share) in Q2 2017.
- Total operating days1 were 903 in Q3 2017, while operating days in Q2 2017 were 627.
- Net ship operating expenses (OPEX1) in Q3 2017 were $5 178 per day, compared to $4 987 per day in Q2 2017.
- Cash break-even per vessel was $7 391 in Q3 2017, with only 10 sailing vessels on average. The target for the fully delivered fleet was about $7 250 per day.
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Finder
30.11.2017 kl 21:15 5699

Copy-paster svaret mitt fra SBULK tråden. (Hadde vært interessant å få innspill fra de GOGL-frelste)

Dette var hyggelig lesing.

EBITDA tar 3gangen, noe som er bra, men ikke det viktigste.
Ett marginalt tap der flåten har økt med 40%(Fra 10 til 14) er bedre enn forventet.

En Cash break-even på litt under 7400 er meget bra. Dette med bare 10 båter, da er naturligvis dagens break-even enda lavere. Selv med dagens rater gir det mer en godt nok rom for høy lønnsomhet.

Guidingen er relativt lik GOGL sin. Veldig positivt.

Står fortsatt ved at dette er det beste "bettet" på tørrbulkmarkedet videre.
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really
01.12.2017 kl 00:35 5467

Hei Kjepet,
Hvilke tvitterkonti følger du?
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Sa2ri
01.12.2017 kl 07:47 5367

Asia Dry Bulk-Capesize rates to climb higher in a ‘market on fire’

Freight rates for large dry cargo ships on key Asian routes, which hit three-year highs this week, are likely to rise further on a shortage of ships available for immediate charter, brokers said.

Rates for 180,000 deadweight tonne (DWT) capesize ships are set to break $10 a tonne from Australia to China in the next few days, while rates could also surpass $20 a tonne from Brazil to China.

“There are more chances of rates breaking $10 than $20 because the Australian market is more active among miners and vessel operators,” a Singapore-based capesize broker said on Thursday.

The $10-a-tonne level was last breached in April 2014, and would be equivalent to earnings of $28,500 a day, while rates of $20 a tonne were last seen in November 2014, according to ship brokers and data on the Reuters Eikon terminal.

“Fortescue Metals was offering $9.50-$9.55 a tonne on Thursday. Roy Hill is likely to fix north of $10 a tonne,” the broker said.

“It doesn’t look like there will be any slowdown, particularly from Australia,” the broker added.

Rio Tinto and FMG have both been active charterers this week, brokers said.

In the Brazilian market, vessel operators have been active while Vale has largely stayed away from spot charters this week.

“Weather delays in China and also significantly increased Brazil activity (are) adding fuel to a market segment on fire,” Norwegian ship broker Fearnley said in a note.

Vale has focused on developing chartering relationships with a core group of shipowners through long-term charters.

South Korea owner Pan Ocean said on Thursday that it had won a 1.98 trillion won ($1.82 billion) contract from Vale to haul iron ore from Brazil to China for 27 years starting in 2020. Pan Ocean said Vale will sign long-term contracts for 30 ships from seven South Korean and foreign ship owners.

“Happy days for the big ships with high and improving iron ore demand and prices in particular. Coal transaction volumes also higher than foreseen,” Fearnley said in its note on Wednesday.

Capesize charter rates on the Western Australia-China route rose to $9.44 a tonne on Wednesday from $8.35 per tonne last week. Rates hit $9.51 a tonne on Tuesday, the highest since Nov. 11, 2014.

Freight rates from Brazil to China soared to $19.79 a tonne on Wednesday, the highest since Nov. 21, 2014, from $18.50 per tonne the same day last week.

Panamax rates for a north Pacific round trip voyage rose to $9,750 per day on Wednesday, the highest since Nov. 10 from $9,029 per day last week.

Rates in Asia for smaller supramax ships continued to rise with rates of $10,000-$11,000 per day from India to southeast Asia, and Singapore to Japan.
Source: Reuters (Reporting by Keith Wallis; Editing by Sherry Jacob-Phillips)

http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/asia-dry-bulk-capesize-rates-to-climb-higher-in-a-market-on-fire/
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Shippingballs
01.12.2017 kl 08:32 5271

Jeg synes de er gniene på pretraden i dag. 65,50, er ikke det litt lavt?
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KJEPET
01.12.2017 kl 08:41 5242

Tror heller vi skal si at alle som kommer seg inn under 70.- i dag bør være svært godt fornøyde:-)
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