Folk faller sammen av mange grunner. Kan være hjerteproblemer, fyll, dop.

Fake news!!

Her er en video til, fra et sykehus. 8 likposer på noen timer. Og en døde inne på intensiven. Dette er fra Kina og kan ikke være fake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY5jVwZEtVc

Ikke ekspert på slike ting men dette ser ut som fotomontasje. Bare lagt for å skremme folk.

Folk dør vel av mange ting på sykehus som er totalt overbelastet?? Folk ser det de vil se.

Så er det også studien publisert i The Lancet, der 41 pasienter med påvist coronavirus ble fulgt gjennom hele sykdomsforløpet. 6 av de 41 døde. Det er 15% dødelighet og står mer i forhold til de dramatiske tiltakene som er satt i verk i Kina. Lancet-studien er det nærmeste man kommer vitenskap i denne situasjonen. Men ingen mainstream aviser har nevnt studien.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext

Dere blir jo paranoide om dere tror på alt.
Slapp av, det ordner seg, media ødelegger det meste og hausser opp slik at panikken skal bre seg og noen biter på og tror dommedagen er her.

Dette er bare tull og tøys, her fremstilles Coronaviruset som om det er et problem for selskapet Norwegian.
Det er det ikke og krisemaximeringen her inne er lett å gjennomskue.

Denne krisen som gjelder først og fremst Kina innland er snart løst, vaksiner er nærmest oppe å stå.
De som kanskje er hardest rammet er vanlig offentlig transport og handelsstanden.
Ikke flyindustrien hvor tiltak er satt inn.

Lancet har publisert en oppdatert studie, denne gangen av 99 pasienter med konstatert Wuhan-infeksjon. 11 av de 99 døde av multi-organsvikt. Det gir en dødelighet på 11%. At dødsårsaken er multi-organsvikt er svært spesielt, og antyder at dette viruset har spesielle egenskaper som avviker fra andre virus i Corona-familien.


Med over 10% dødelighet og en infeksjonsrate (R0) på 3-4, er det forståelig at myndighetene setter inn militære styrker og stenger ned hele byer med millioner av innbyggere.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext

Logisk kortslutning fra deg. Dette er en selektert gruppe på 99 mennesker som allerede er blitt så syk at de trenger innleggelse på sykehus for intensiv behandling. Alle hadde dobbelsidig lungebetennelse allerede da de ble lagt inn, 51% hadde en undeliggende alvorlig kronisk sykdom og snittalderen var 55,5 år.

De aller fleste smittede av dette corona-viruset opplever det som en vanlig influensa, eller til og med bare som en forkjølelse. De blir selvsagt aldri innlagt på sykehus og kommer seg av seg selv. De kommer dermed heller ikke med på en sånn type statisstikk

Verkar som spridning samsvarer med de plasser der de byggt ut 5G-net

Det ser ut til at alle som blir diagnostisert med Wuhan-virus blir innlagt på sykehus. Studien har ikke valgt ut spesielt syke pasienter, slik du hevder. I PDF-filen står det:

Methods:
In this retrospective, single-centre study, we included all confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV in Wuhan Jinyintan
Hospital from Jan 1 to Jan 20, 2020. Cases were confirmed by real-time RT-PCR and were analysed for epidemiological,
demographic, clinical, and radiological features and laboratory data. Outcomes were followed up until Jan 25, 2020.

Spredning samsvarer med 5g, interesant.
5g øker radiation 10-100 ganger mer enn i dag, vitenskapsmenn sier 5g er den største galskapen mennesker har funnet på men det er jo god butikk.
Så kanskje mennesker blir syke av 5g så kan de si at det er av viruset

Ikke tull da. All confirmed cases IN the hospital. Tenk deg om! Forøvrig: 100 syke utenfor Kina. Ingen døde. 10k +/- i Kina. 200 +/- døde.

Det er stor usikkerhet knyttet til dødeligheten til viruset
Antall stadfestet døde til nå er 362
Antall friskmeldte er 523

Antageligvis er det mindre dødelig enn Sars men mer smittsomt.
Om det blir en pandemi vil selv 1% dødelighet være forferdelig. 10% dødelighet er fullstendig krise.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Anbefaler disse podcastene for mer innsikt i situasjonen

https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/stopping-coronavirus-outbreak/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/30/podcasts/the-daily/coronavirus.html

Ps. De 5g greiene fremstår konspiratoriske. Husk å skille mellom korrelasjon og kausalitet.

Merkelig dersom en person i ytterklær helt uten verneutstyr tillates å være på et rom hvor helsepersonell er i fullt verneutstyr.

«Her kan du se falske videoer som spres på nettet:»

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/i/OpBAq1/bildene-gaar-verden-rundt-full-virusberedskap-naar-mann-faller-om-paa-gaten

Du kan ikke sammenligne det å behandle en eller to pasienter med det å behandle mange hundre. Det står i flere artikler at noen får så alvorlige pustevansker at de trenger respirator. Og det kan være at pasienter dør på grunn av mangel på respiratorer og medisinsk personell som kan håndtere avansert utstyr. Og de fleste, om ikke alle, som får påvist Wuhan-virus, blir innlagt på sykehus. Antakelig på grunn av smittevernregler. Det er ikke slik at kun de sykeste blir innlagt.

NRK gjentar til stadig at corona virsuet ikke er mer farlig enn influensa! Dette er direkte feil!
Dødelighet vanlig sesonginfluensa 1 av 1000 = 0.01%
Dødelighet corona virus = antall døde/ antall smittede = 362/17480 = 0.0207 = 2.07% = 1 av 50 dør Dette er tall fra KINA
Corona virus er da 20 ganger mer dødelig enn influensa.
De virkelige tallene er mye værre.

Dette er ikke falske videoer:
https://youtu.be/7OEqybiGdaA
https://youtu.be/deWlQmdNZgY
https://youtu.be/WlokRxIe3L0
https://youtu.be/AhAXcdFz9m0
https://youtu.be/BSc2SuF1L1Q

The Wuhan coronavirus spreading from China is now likely to become a pandemic that circles the globe, according to many of the world’s leading infectious disease experts.

The prospect is daunting. A pandemic — an ongoing epidemic on two or more continents — may well have global consequences, despite the extraordinary travel restrictions and quarantines now imposed by China and other countries, including the United States.

Scientists do not yet know how lethal the new coronavirus is, however, so there is uncertainty about how much damage a pandemic might cause. But there is growing consensus that the pathogen is readily transmitted between humans.

The Wuhan coronavirus is spreading more like influenza, which is highly transmissible, than like its slow-moving viral cousins, SARS and MERS, scientists have found.

“It’s very, very transmissible, and it almost certainly is going to be a pandemic,” said Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease.

“But will it be catastrophic? I don’t know.”

In the last three weeks, the number of lab-confirmed cases has soared from about 50 in China to more than 17,000 in at least 23 countries; there have been more than 360 deaths.

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But various epidemiological models estimate that the real number of cases is 100,000 or even more. While that expansion is not as rapid as that of flu or measles, it is an enormous leap beyond what virologists saw when SARS and MERS emerged.

When SARS was vanquished in July 2003 after spreading for nine months, only 8,098 cases had been confirmed. MERS has been circulating since 2012, but there have been only about 2,500 known cases.
How Bad Will the Coronavirus Outbreak Get? Here Are 6 Key Factors
Here’s what early research says about how the pathogen behaves and the factors that will determine whether it can be contained.
Jan. 31, 2020

The biggest uncertainty now, experts said, is how many people around the world will die. SARS killed about 10 percent of those who got it, and MERS now kills about one of three.

The 1918 “Spanish flu” killed only about 2.5 percent of its victims — but because it infected so many people and medical care was much cruder then, 20 to 50 million died.

By contrast, the highly transmissible H1N1 “swine flu” pandemic of 2009 killed about 285,000, fewer than seasonal flu normally does, and had a relatively low fatality rate, estimated at .02 percent.

The mortality rate for known cases of the Wuhan coronavirus has been running about 2 percent, although that is likely to drop as more tests are done and more mild cases are found.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/02/health/coronavirus-pandemic-china.html

Markedet for tinnfoliehatter er økende på Hegnars Tivoli ;-)

Du er en idiot. Forstår dere ikke at 1000 vis av mennesker er døde i kina pga viruset.

Hadde ikke forventet å få påført tinnfoliehatt ved å betvile de offisielle tallene fra det kinesiske kommunistpartiet.

Ikke overaskende egentlig Norge har jo lagt seg på rygg for Kina:
Avtalen med Kina er ydmykende for Norge

Norge har måttet betale en veldig høy pris for å normalisere forholdet til Kina, mener norsk Oxford-professor. William Nygaard er enig: - Jeg blir veldig trist, sier han.
https://www.aftenposten.no/verden/i/8MM9r/avtalen-med-kina-er-ydmykende-for-norge

Å selge laks er viktigere enn menneskerettigheter.

novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV)

Når evnene ikke strekker til, slik at man må bruke nedsettende bemerkninger om medskribenter, er vel alt man oppnår det å avsløre egen utilstrekklighet kombinert med en grunnleggende mangel på folkeskikk hos seg selv.

Utrolig respektløst å kalle dette falske videoer og tinnfoliehatt materiale. Når tusenvis dør av dette viruset.
"As of February 2, 2020, there are 43 hospitals in Wuhan approved to accept fever patients due to the outbreak.

These hospitals provide a total of 10,747 beds. The city is allocated 400 2019-nCoV corona virus test strips per day, according to Official news conference, each new patient is tested at least twice before becoming a confirmed case, in case of false positives or false negatives. Only confirmed cases are eligible for hospital admission.

This means the official number reported to WHO from Wuhan can only go up a max of 200 case per day, with an approximately 2 day delay for test processing time. According to interviews, each doctor sees approximately 200 per shift, 80% of them shows pneumonia symptoms, 5 of which will be fortunate enough to be admitted, when beds become available either due to death or discharge (the approximation of the total death/cured is consistent with reported number).

The doctors being interviewed consistently report at least 4 out of 5 tests result come back positive. That leaves 155 out of 160 (80% of 200) patients per day per doctor out of the reported stat. These patients are sent away without medication and recommended home isolation. They then have to walk, due to public transit shut down, several hours to get home, while feverish and having difficulty breathing. This does not include patient who are showing a different set of symptoms, too sick or elderly to make their ways to the hospitals.

I dare not do the math.

As a result, the outbreak is seeing entire families and neighbourhoods. Not included in the official stat are my friends, people I went to school with, my family’s neighbours, and people my parents work with.

Also on February 2, the city announced that a number of previously closed hotels will be reopened as isolation wards to house suspected cases currently on home isolation. Room and food will be provided free of charge. There likely will be none, or next to none medical attention, as doctors struggle to tend to those already overflowing in hospitals.

These, are isolation death camps.

News of corruption and resource mismanagement comes out in waves in chinese news outlets, and shut down by the government within hours of publication. Hospital staffs are wearing garbage bags after protective suits ran out, while city officials’ private vehicles truck away boxes of medical grade supplies for “meetings”.

Ambulances will not dispatch unless you have a confirmed admission. Morgues take up to two days to come pick up a body at home. Home deaths are of course, not included in the official number. Families of the sick get nothing other than a phone call or text message informing them of the death. No funerals, no visitations, no goodbyes. Just a notice of mandatory cremation and ashes pending pick up at further notice.

One of my aunt's running buddies died. He ran many marathons, and cycled through Tibet. Not one you'd consider "weak and elderly". One of my mom's work friend died. A leading scholar in bio-chemical engineering, a professor in postdoctoral studies. His parents are in their 80s and 90s, his daughter lives in the U.S. His family doesn't know how to break the news.

The quarantine is put in place to limit contamination outside of ground zero, it is not there to help the people being contained. And my family, my friends, are trapped there, in the hands of people I cannot trust.

This is not a Hollywood movie plot.

This is my home. My city is in flames."

Håper tinnfoliehatten passer, LOL !

Watch what they do, not what they say
Discussion

I'm an American living in China, in Yunnan province.

I appreciate this sub and the information, and I am gravely concerned that the researchers are basing all their projections on data that are completely at odds with the situation on the ground.

Local government officials and party leaders are not medical experts, but they are certainly being told by their guanxi (relationships) working in police stations and hospitals what is going on, and they are collectively acting as if they have a catastrophe on their hands.

Imagine you're a passenger on a ship, and you see the cabin crew suddenly making huge announcements and orders "for your safety" with terrified looks on their faces and grim-faced soldiers standing at the door. What are you going to go with? The sales brochure you were reading a few days ago that assured you that everything was going to be fine? Or has that assurance been replaced by new, urgent information, if only anecdotal for now?

The virus is clearly accelerating, even using official data. The governments around the world are canceling flights. The government here canceled the Spring Festival holiday, closed the Great Wall and all the national parks and most of the smaller ones and all the fast food restaurants and banned vehicle traffic between cities and provinces. Evacuation flights of expat citizens are landing and showing infection rates of the passengers of 1-2% and mandatory quarantines on military bases.

None of what the decision-makers are doing comports with a low infection rate and low mortality rates. The people who know? The doctors and hospital administrators and local public officials who decided to lock 150,000,000 people in their homes, with more to come in a few days? They're acting like it's doomsday. Maybe we should too.

Forget even about what China are doing for a moment (which are drastic measures, granted). Look at private companies like Apple, Ikea, Google, Starbucks, McDonalds, etc - closing business entirely throughout China. They don't want a sick workforce that'll probably sue them or cost them in health insurance if they kept stores open. British Airways cancelling flights in and out of China until March - massive loss in revenue to them.

As you say, look at what they do, not what they say.

Another saying is to follow the money. Smart money is trying to get out and get away from China, the area or region. Like you said, McD's, Starbucks, Apple,etc. wouldn't be pulling out if there was even a dime to be made.

Also, the economic toll is devastating if it were "merely a flu," which no one is quarantining or evacuating people over. Also, the spread of the flu doesn't even come close or compare to how this has been spreading, its numbers, or its toll on the individual.

Noe nytt fra Jehovas vitner, har vi garanti for dommedag denne gang ?

Husk, dette er bare begynnelsen, kom igjen når den har spredt seg over hele kloden.

The biggest uncertainty now, experts said, is how many people around the world will die. SARS killed about 10 percent of those who got it, and MERS now kills about one of three. The 1918 “Spanish flu” killed only about 2.5 percent of its victims — but because it infected so many people and medical care was much cruder then, 20 to 50 million died. By contrast, the highly transmissible H1N1 “swine flu” pandemic of 2009 killed about 285,000, fewer than seasonal flu normally does, and had a relatively low fatality rate, estimated at .02 percent.

The mortality rate for known cases of the Wuhan coronavirus has been running about 2 percent, although that is likely to drop as more tests are done and more mild cases are found.

Vet ikke, det er vel med tanke på at den angriper lungene. Det er de svakeste som dør. Eldre og folk med en eller
annen sykdom som har svekket dem.

Slumstrøk som Oslo er utsatt, trygt og godt på landsbygda.

Opinion: How the coronavirus scare has driven dangerous arrogance and greed in the stock market

It is no secret that the stock market is driven by greed and fear. Normally I measure levels of greed and fear in the market using proven algorithms. At extremes, greed is a sell signal and fear is a buy signal for stocks.

The reaction to the coronavirus shows that there is an unprecedented amount of arrogance among the momo (momentum) crowd and the people who influence them. The stock market these days is controlled by the momo crowd. This combination of greed and arrogance may prove to be dangerous for investors. Let’s examine the danger with the help of two charts.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-the-coronavirus-scare-has-driven-dangerous-arrogance-and-greed-in-the-stock-market-2020-01-30?mod=mw_quote_news

773,000 nCoV test kits are now being produced in China per day, 40 times the number of suspected cases and sufficient at current rate of demand. This represent 60-70% of full production capacity.

Bottlenecks are now more likely in the number of medical staff available to perform the tests.

Det er en helt korrekt observasjon, det virker å forekomme spesielt hyppig i nærheten av Huawei 5G basestasjoner!

Coronaviruset er et såkalt RNA-virus, som er kjennetegnet av å være ustabilt og ha en høy mutasjonsrate.
Viruset har allerede mutert 2 ganger;
- 1 gang da det hoppet fra Huawei sitt 5G nettverk over til flaggermus i området,
- 1 gang da det hoppet fra dyr til mennesker, og igjen da det begynte å smitte mellom mennesker.

Forskere over hele verden frykter derfor at viruset muterer igjen, og at mutasjonene styrker egenskaper som smitteevne og dødelighet.
Det er nemlig her coronaviruset kan bli veldig farlig.

Jeg håper amerikanske myndigheter tar noen raske grep for å redusere virusets videre eksponeringsmuligheter.