QEC - Regjeringen v/Couillard - dispute Lone Pine og fracking


Følgende twittermelding illustrerer pågående dispute mellom Lone Pine og Canada (Quebec), hvor søksmålet har beløp i størrelse $250 mill:

NAFTA'S chapter 11 at it again. Lone Pine Resources suing the Canadian government bc Quebec won't allow fracking under the St . Lawrence

Det har forundret meg lenge at regjeringen synes være så til de grader vennlig innstilt vs. hydrokarbonene at til og med fracking ligger inne i Bill 106 - Chapter IV. Spørsmålet man må stille seg er hvorfor selv fracking synes være en mulighet som regjeringen ønsker å holde åpen – gitt særlig Couillard flere ganger har gjentatt sitt buskap: No fracking Anticosti og St. Lawrence. For Anticosti er det inngått avtale og selskap er løst ut. Hva så med det øvrige Quebec inkl. St. Lawrence. Er det Lone Pine dispute og redselen for erstatningsansvar som skattebetalerne i Quebec må ta, dersom endelig dom medfører at Lone Pine vinner frem med sitt søksmål?

Har forsøkt å se bak teppet. Hva er det som medfører at regjeringen kjører parallelt. På den ene siden reguleres det med siktemål fracking, på den andre har regjeringen og tydeligvis statsminister Couilarrd store kvaler med å tillate hydrokarbonene og da spesielt fracking.

Svaret tror jeg kan ligge i pågående NAFTA, Chapter 11 dispute. For taper Canada denne saken, så må det antas at flere selskap tilsluttet NAFTA (frihandelsavtalen) vil fremme søksmål. Følgelig kan hele saken om fracking dreie seg om hva rettskraftig dom vil medføre. Vinner Canada frem, så tror jeg at Quebec promte vil justere pågående prosess og hydrokarbonene til minst å fase ut fracking. Det er egentlig det man ser konturene av: For olje og konvensjonell gass synes Moreau og flere å kunne akseptere på gitte betingelser. Fracking derimot sitter fryktelig langt inne, men ikke lenger enn at vinner Lone Pine pågående dispute, så tvinges Quebec til å svelge denne fracking-kamalen, ettersom erstatningene hinsides vil sprenge alle budsjett og lommebøker. Subsidiært må gjelde at de kontrakter og tillatelser som er inngått i Quebec vil eller kan medføre erstatningsansvar på annet hold enn pågående NAFTA dispute.

For å kunne forstå Couillards standpunkt vs. hydrokarbonene og fracking, les hva han uttalte i Paris i 2015 og før løsning av Anticosti ble en realitet (google translate):

Couillard buried (almost) Anticosti

December 5, 2015

The Premier of Quebec has no enthusiasm for the oil exploitation on Anticosti Island and if it were up to him, he would never have signed the exploration contract that should soon allow the companies oil companies to do fracking. While traveling to Paris where he met many times at the UN Climate Conference, Philippe Couillard said more than ever that the only reason for this exploration is to prevent Quebeckers the penalties. provided in case of breach of contract.

"Anticosti, I have nothing to do with this project," he said. I found it when I arrived. I would have preferred not to find it because I had opposed this project when I was in opposition. [...] If there is any risk, the slightest risk, for this extraordinary natural environment that is Anticosti, the project will not take place. "

The Prime Minister also wants to let the oil companies know he has "no enthusiasm for hydrocarbons" and that "Quebec's future is not based in hydrocarbons. Absolutely not ! This future, he says, is based primarily on Québec's freshwater reserves, its hydroelectricity and the manufacture of electric cars.

The Prime Minister is clearly suggesting that public hearings that will open in a year are likely to stop exploration. So why not just cancel the contract, as the suggestion has often been made to the Prime Minister? "The problem we have is that we have a contract signed [...] with penalties for non-compliance," said the Prime Minister. So I hope we can come to the right conclusion, but we must do it right to protect taxpayers in Quebec. "

Even before the public hearings scheduled for November 2016 alone, the Prime Minister does not hesitate to express serious doubts himself about the possibility of drilling such holes without impacting the natural environment. "To my knowledge, there is no precedent elsewhere for fracking in an insular environment in the middle of a strategic gulf such as the Gulf of St. Lawrence. "

The statement pleased the environmental organizations that have been fighting this project for years. "I had never heard such a clear statement from the Prime Minister," said Steven Guilbault, director of Équiterre visibly pleased.

Greenpeace's Patrick Bonin also welcomed the unprecedented output of the prime minister. "But," he said, "if we wanted to terminate the contract, we had only to hold public hearings before exploratory drilling. Because, even in exploration mode, there is an ecological risk. According to the most recent studies, the basement of Anticosti Island contains only 22% of oil and 78% of gas.

The Prime Minister's intervention came as he had just announced, on the site of COP 21 in Le Bourget near Paris, a Québec contribution of $ 25.5 million to help the countries of French-speaking Africa. to deal with global warming

http://www.ledevoir.com/environnement/actualites-sur-l-environnement/457216/le-quebec-a-la-cop-21-couillard-enterre-presque-anticosti


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"In terms of the amounts awarded against Canada, one also has to be careful with other numbers. Billions of dollars have been claimed by American investors, but only a very small amount, all totalled, has actually been awarded in their favour.Even with the latest $19-million decision, the total awards against Canada, in more than 20 years of NAFTA litigation, comes to about $37-million. This includes some cases where Canada and the investor settled out of court."

Jeg trur ikke det er redselen for erstatningsansvar som ligger til bakgrund før noen beslut.
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Unnskyld meg Isabelle, med det du og regjeringen i Quebec driver med er så hyklerisk at det finnes ikke ord. På den ene siden fremelske og dyrke et inntrykk at Quebec viser lederskap innen miljø og klimatiltak, mens det på den andre siden nylig ble etablert Bill 106, Chapter IV (hydorkarbonene), som både er CO2 fiendtlig og drivhusgass-killer ved gass/fracking, f.eks. metan.

I en tid hvor den fornybare energien burde stått i sentrum, forserer og trekker - fra et gufs av fremtiden - regjeringen i Quebec frem gass og olje, og lar O&G industrien i Quebec vise vei?

Isabelle burde ha reist i stillhet og egentlig heller holdt seg hjemme for å ivareta reguleringene. Kan godt forstå at miljøorg. i Quebec ikke skjønner denne selvmotsigelsen som Quebec så til de grader utviser. Nå får vi se om det blir olje og fracking i Quebec, men mye tyder på det om regjeringen får det som den vil. Google oversatt og nesten alt er nevnt:

Paris climate mobilization summit: Québec will be well represented to demonstrate its leadership in the fight against climate change

Office of the Minister of Sustainable Development, Environment and the Fight Against Climate Change

QUEBEC, 10 Dec. 2017 / CNW Telbec / - The Minister of Sustainable Development, the Environment and the Fight Against Climate Change, Isabelle Melançon, will be in France from December 11 to 14, accompanied by the climate change emissary and challenges Jean Lemire, Quebec Nordic and Arctic, and Line Beauchamp, Quebec's Delegate General in Paris, to represent Quebec at the Climate Mobilization Summit, also known as the One Planet Summit. The objective of the summit is to take stock of the implementation of the Paris Agreement two years after its adoption, to highlight the actions of the various actors involved in the fight against climate change and to accelerate the mobilization of resources. financial.

The minister will highlight Québec's leadership in the fight against climate change, particularly in La Francophonie, as well as the important role played by the federal states in this area.

At the invitation of France, Minister Melançon will take part, alongside the Norwegian Minister of the Environment, Vidar Helgesen, the President of the Grantham Research Institute on climate change, Lord Nicholas Stern, and the CEO and founder of the Blue Like an Orange Sustainable Capital France fund, Bertrand Badré, at a round table on public policies and economic instruments to accelerate the transition to a more low-carbon society. The roundtable will be led by French Minister for the Ecological and Solidarity Transition, Nicolas Hulot, Mexico's Environment Minister Rafael Pacchiano and OECD Secretary-General Angel Gurria. In addition to her participation in this exchange, bilateral talks will be on the minister's agenda.

The Paris Climate Mobilization Summit will allow me to continue the discussions started at the 23rd Conference of the Parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change in Bonn last month. At the request of Mr. Hulot, I go to Paris to share Quebec's vision on carbon pricing. Our carbon market is both a tool for economic development and GHG reduction. Our market stands out and innovates because it is both sub-national and transnational and all of its revenues are used to finance the Fonds Vert Québécois, which funds initiatives to fight and adapt to climate change. Our carbon market is attracting the interest of many governments who want to learn from it and possibly join ours. It is therefore a privilege to witness to this political and economic success and to exchange with my counterparts from all over the world. "

http://www.newswire.ca/fr/news-releases/sommet-de-la-mobilisation-sur-le-climat-de-paris--le-quebec-sera-bien-represente-pour-demontrer-son-leadership-en-matiere-de-lutte-contre-les-changements-climatiques-663183453.html

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ak78
10.12.2017 kl 22:56 2684

Det har rent mye vann under bruen siden ministerens uttalelser i 2015, det vet du godt gunnarius for dette er noe du drar opp titt og ofte til det kjedsommelige. Dessverre er det usikre sjeler som ikke kjenner caset så godt du skremmer bort med disse gamle uttalelsene vedr fracking i Quebec.... helt uten relevans i dag.
Karl Ewa
11.12.2017 kl 00:39 2582

Det var ei anna tone i New York på Grunarius da NEC prøvde å få fracketillatelse.... vi så jo alle hvordan det gikk...