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Rate 80 209 ?

Mener vel, 80209!

Jepp, https://www.tradewindsnews.com/gas/vlgc-spot-rates-hit-five-year-high-on-us-exports-to-asia/2-1-920371

Någon som vet hur mycket BW tjänar på LPG drift av sina skepp?

Med drivstoff LPG sparer BWLPG ca. 6000$ pr dag pr. skip som er retrofitted. 2 skip i år, 10 til neste år, break even vil gå ned.

https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/freight/freight-route-lpg-baltic-futures.html

Den ga nok svar for gårsdagens nedgang. Men mesteparten av Q1 er nå allerede dekket. Liker utviklingen i mai!

Tack, det var ett tag sen man var med i LPG, blev slaktad av corona 😢.
Men det verkar gå bra trots allt skulle aldrig sålt men men.

Jag har sett retrofit kostnaden någonstans men kommer inte ihåg vad det kostade /skepp, 6000$ är bra spar och som sagt framtidssäkring.

Mvh

Regn med breakeven i dag på ca 22.000 $.

Er det Shorting på gang nå da ?

Du vet vel det torbflov at ved spillebordet og pokerbordet kan resultatene bli uforståelige. For hva er det som teller? Jo "pænga"!

Dagens rater ..81 768 $

Noen som forklarer meg hvorfor denne aksjen går ned og ned denne uken, når Fearnley Securities oppjusterte kursmålet på BW LPG til 78 fra tidligere 40 kroner i en analyse senest nå på fredag?

Helt naturligt med et lille tilbagefald efter så kraftig en opgang, mange har sikkert taget gevinst. Jeg har selv tradet den et par gange og været heldig, MEN efter min mening skal den videre op, raterne i Q1 ser jo id til at være helt hinsides så udbyttet de næste 2 kvartaler må blive helt fantastiske, yderligere vil jeg tro at verden ser helt anderledes ud (covid vaccine) om 2 måneder, så mon ikke vi får et skikkeligt julerally.:)

Dorian LPG opp 0,57% på Nyse i går 2. desember 2020.

https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/freight/freight-route-lpg-baltic-futures.html

Samme link hver natt, nice. Og post hver gang dorian går opp., Veldig seriøst!

BW skal ha landet et par TC'er i India?
Flott om det er noen lengre TC'er evt! Noen som kan bekrefte/avkrefte?
Ute på reis, så ikke tilgang til alt av innlogginger.

Er det så mye mer å gå på for BWLPG nå, kursmessig, slik situasjonen er for tiden med bl.a pandemi?

Virker jo sånn, basert på analysene til proffene. De har nok også pandemien i bakhodet i sine analyser.

https://finansavisen.no/nyheter/shipping/2020/11/27/7592739/fearnley-securities-dobler-kursmalene-pa-bw-lpg-og-avance-gas

Keep up the good work Urix !
Det postes mye her inne som er mindre interessant.

Keep up the good work Urix !
Det postes mye her inne som er mindre interessant.

Fijo
Pandemien har ikke hatt så mye å bety for businessen til Avance og BWLPG.
Det har ført til en del logistikkproblemer med mannskaper, som har ført til økte kostnader, men det mange fryktet i våres, var at oljeproduksjonen onshore i USA skulle
gå kraftig tilbake pga lav oljepris. Dette har ikke skjedd i så stor grad som fryktet.
Og lpg-produksjonen har faktisk økt litt ift 1919. De to siste måneder er lpg-prod opp 4 %. Og etterspørselen i Asia øker.
Så mer lpg skal fraktes på den lengste ruta som gir tonnmil.
Så dette ser veldig bra ut.
Ratene er superbra, til tross for at dette er lavsesong.
De fleste meglerhus har oppjustert sine rateanslag og kursmål kraftig.
Nå må bare DnB få justert sine analyser. De er helt i tåka.

DNB var i tåka i fjor sommer også.

På tide Kodenavn å etablerer
ny side. Denne er blitt for stor nå!

Dorian LPG opp 2,18% på Nyse i går 3. desember 2020.

https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/freight/freight-route-lpg-baltic-futures.html

Den er stor ja, men det er bare å trykke på omvendt knappen så er du på de siste postene. Går kjapt det da.

Uansett greit å lage en ny tråd også.

Trykk på tallet i parantes under "svar". Da kommer du rett inn på siste innlegg.

Lånt fra Avanca tråd. Bliver en fin jul!!


'Virtually no' VLGCs available as rates stay strong

Analysts continue to talk up prospects for large gas carriers as free tonnage dries up
Prospects remain bright for VLGCs into 2021 as free tonnage dries up.

Norwegian investment bank Fearnley Securities said the market has continued on a "strong note" since hitting five-year highs last week.
Analysts Espen Landmark Fjermestad, Peder Nicolai Jarlsby and Ulrik Mannhart see limited headwinds in the near-term.
"The market remains extremely tight in both basins as there is simply not enough tonnage to cater for demand," they said.

There are still a few vessels available for December dates in the Middle East Gulf, but Fearnley expects attention to quickly turn towards January, with no tonnage overhang.

Rates have continued to tick upwards, with the latest Baltic Exchange assessment coming in at $91.36 per tonne on Wednesday, or $82,300 per day.
Charterers assess their options
"Following the hectic last week, the market has levelled off as charterers have taken a step back to assess options," the analysts said.
"However, there are virtually no available vessels for the relevant fixing window which has left transpacific runs at a premium to western rates."

Western numbers are estimated at $86,000 per day.
Compatriot investment bank Cleaves Securities said a lack of available tonnage and strong fixing activity in the west saw earnings rally to $81,000 per day on 27 November, a 50% jump on the prior week and 58% on the prior month.

"Canal delays are still supportive, but relets could emerge with the US/Asia LPG arbitrage now close to spot rates," the company added.
Cleaves puts vessel earnings 3.5 times above cash break-even levels.

Exports stay solid
"The very strong VLGC spot market reflects solid export volumes, but also significant fleet inefficiencies. Cargoes ex-US are now working towards mid-January laycans due to the lack of available prompt vessels, impacted by turnaround delays at discharge ports and transit delays at the Panama Canal," analysts Joakim Hannisdahl and Peter Michael Christensen said.

Satellite data shows eight VLGCs were awaiting Panama Canal transit at the start of this week, with an average waiting time of 2.8 days, according to Cleaves.
This is down from the 3.8 days average in October, but up from the 1.7 days average between May and August.

"With some vessels now using up to nine days to transit the canal (normally around two days), many opt for the 12-days-longer voyage around the Cape of Good Hope. This is further adding to the fleet inefficiencies, tying up an estimated 7% of the global VLGC fleet’s capacity," the Cleaves analysts said.

Ballast speed picking up
One offsetting factor is an increase in VLGC ballast speed as owners hurry to the next deal.
Speed averaged 15.1 knots in November, versus 14.3kn in June, the investment bank calculated.
This rise represents a 2.5% increase in fleet capacity.

Ballast speed has averaged 2% higher than laden speed in November, reflecting the strong earnings environment, Cleaves said.
"It is challenging to say how long these fleet inefficiencies will last, with the Panama Canal delays said to be caused by high traffic, seasonal fog and Covid-19 related issues," the analysts added.

"We expect that the delays will abate in the first quarter of 2021.

The VLGC market remains extremely tight, with the Middle East market now at a premium to the US Gulf–and a 15-month TC now said to have been completed at USD 45,000/day – well above what we have seen over the past few weeks (35,000/day). The spot index has remained above USD 80,000/day, with at least six fixtures completed this week – with BW LPG for example fixing a ship for loading in the US Gulf on the 19th of January – at USD 140/ton for USG – Asia (just below 80k/day)

15 måneders TC på 45k USD/dagen..
Det er knallsterkt, og meget lovende for det kommende året!

Og man skal ikke klage på den spot turen BW har satt i januar

Fearnley : USD/day 84,910 !
Og CBE ca. USD/day 22.000
Cash maskin.

Dorian LPG opp 6,57% på Nyse i går 4. desember 2020.

https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/freight/freight-route-lpg-baltic-futures.html

Siden du startet denne gjetteleken om kursmål. Så skal jeg ikke ta den fra deg.

Kan du ikke starte en tråd til med kun kursmål, men til og med børslutt 23/12 eller absolutt siste børsdag i 2020. Istedet for 18/12...(Hvorfor valgte du 18/12?)

Letter å finne vinnern istedet for den lange tråden her.

Hvor store blir de besparelsene på LPG drivstoff? Leste en på forumet som skrev 6000 dollar/day. Syntes det hørtes veldig mye ut. Er det andre som kan bekrefte dette?

Tycker också att 6000 US$/dag i besparning låter mycket. Men på många ställen kan jag läsa att LPG är 11% effektivare än vanlig bunker. Om de då räknat med energitäthet, hanteringskostnader för bunkerolja med uppvärmning/separatorhantering och avgifter och tidsåtgång för sludgehantering vet jag inte. Jag vet inte heller om de räknat med tidsförtjänsten med att slippa extra bunkertid och eventuella lägre kostnader i hamnar för mindre utsläpp? Underhållet och slitaget lär också minska med ett renare drivmedel. De slipper också installation av scrubber och dess kostnader.

Bara bunkerkostnaden/dag utan kringkostnader för VLGC för bunkerolja ligger kring 17.500 US$ vid eco speed. Den blir inte 6.000 US$ lägre/dag, besparingarna ligger i punkterna i ovan.

BWLPG skriver om det på side 18-20 i presentasjonen fra Q1-2020

https://www.bwlpg.com/docs/default-source/financial-reports/bw-lpg-q1-2020-financial-results-presentation.pdf?sfvrsn=5bf537de_2

LPG: VLGC rates continue to tick upwards with the latest Baltic assessment now at USD 94.43/mt, or c. USD 86k/d for non-scrubber fitted vessels. Vessels with scrubbers are presently making just south of USD 90k/d. December to date has averaged USD 83.6k/d and stacks against earnings in the record years of 2014/15 of c. USD 58k/d in the same month. The factors driving this is first and foremost fleet inefficiencies with Panama congestion, drydocks and discharge delays. However, product margins also continue to improve with product differentials (US spot vs 1m fwd Far East prices) now at USD 199/mt, the widest level seen since early January this year. Although we continue to expect a weakening oil parity (Asian propane to price in parity with brent), the effect is still there and a rising crude price is having positive ripple effects on product pricing. At the same time it will (over time) have positive effects on the supply side (product) of the equation.

We continue to like the VLGC names on the long side, seeing improving fundamentals and continued fleet inefficiencies aiding the market in 2021. 2022 is still very much a black box in terms of US production but given the recent rally in crude and seemingly resilient production (propane production dropping substantially less than crude) it is certainly boding well for a potential strong 2022 as well.

Dagens rater ..87 321 $

Baltic #LPG #shipping index +5% to $99/t (TCE $91k/d)

#VLGC $AVANCE $AGAS $BWLPG $LPG

https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/freight/freight-route-lpg-baltic-futures.html

LPG: VLGC rates pushing towards USD 100k/d

Fearnley
LPG: VLGC rates continue its meteoric rise with the Baltic Index gaining 5% yesterday

We also don’t overrule BW LPG coming up with an XO dividend on top of the standard 50% of EPS dividend and 9 cents “catch up” dividend.

Big jump in VLGC rates – BUY AVANCE BWLPG
VLGC rates increased by another $4,600/d yesterday to $90k/d (vs cash breakeven of $20-25k/d for listed companies). The market will remain firm for the foreseeable future and the outlook for 2021 has improved (our brokers recently increased 2021E VLGC rates by 50% to $45k/d average). Analyst consensus is due for a significant upgrade. For Q4, we see potential for 37c EPS vs 27c consensus in BWLPG, with dividend of 27c vs 19c cons. For AVANCE, we see potential for 30c EPS vs 18c cons, with DPS of 15c vs 8c cons. However, the real fun quarter will be 1Q20. Here we see potential for 41c and 23c dividend for BW and AVANCE, respectively, more than twice as much as analyst consensus. There is 35-40% upside to 1Q share price levels on a much better market outlook.